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         Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.
      
       
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             A grave and learned speech or an apology delivered by Denzill Hollis Esq; in a full answer to the charge against him, from His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and the army: for the clearing of himselfe in every particular crime charged against him in the papers.
             Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.
          
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           A
           grave
           and
           learned
           SPEECH
           Or
           an
           APOLOGY
           delivered
           by
           Denzill
           Hollis
           
             Esq
          
           In
           a
           full
           Answer
           to
           the
           Charge
           against
           him
           ,
           from
           His
           Excellency
           Sir
           THOMAS
           FAIRFAX
           and
           the
           Army
           :
        
         
           For
           the
           clearing
           of
           himselfe
           in
           every
           particular
           Crime
           charged
           against
           him
           in
           the
           Papers
           .
        
         
           Printed
           in
           the
           yeare
           .
           1647.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           A
           grave
           and
           learned
           Speech
           ,
           or
           an
           Apology
           delivered
           by
           Denzill
           Holles
           
             Esq
          
           &c.
           
        
         
           
             Mr.
             Speaker
             :
          
        
         
           IT
           is
           my
           unhappinesse
           to
           stand
           accused
           by
           a
           Charge
           against
           me
           ,
           in
           which
           I
           doubt
           not
           (
           and
           so
           the
           rest
           of
           the
           Gentlemen
           under
           this
           mis-fortune
           with
           me
           )
           to
           give
           a
           satisfactory
           accompt
           of
           innocency
           therein
           :
           And
           for
           that
           which
           concerns
           my self
           ,
           I
           shall
           give
           this
           Answer
           to
           it
           :
        
         
           I
           cannot
           undertake
           to
           charge
           my
           memory
           (
           at
           this
           time
           )
           to
           give
           particular
           and
           positive
           answers
           to
           those
           passages
           at
           
             Oxford
             ,
          
           which
           received
           a
           full
           debate
           in
           the
           House
           of
           Commons
           two
           yeares
           since
           ;
           I
           doe
           not
           finde
           any
           new
           matter
           in
           this
           Charge
           ,
           save
           what
           I
           have
           (
           together
           with
           Mr.
           _____
           who
           was
           a
           Commissioner
           with
           me
           there
           )
           then
           gave
           accompt
           of
           ,
           when
           we
           were
           accused
           by
           the
           Lord
           
             Savill
             ;
          
           And
           this
           House
           was
           so
           fully
           satisfied
           (
           after
           a
           full
           debate
           held
           severall
           daies
           thereon
           ,
           that
           it
           was
           
             Resolved
             upon
             the
             Question
             ,
             July
          
           21.
           1645.
           
           (
           by
           this
           House
           )
           
             That
             the
             matter
             of
             the
             report
             should
             be
             totally
             and
             finally
             laid
             aside
             .
          
           And
           for
           the
           truth
           hereof
           ,
           to
           manifest
           my
           innocency
           ,
           and
           discover
           the
           malice
           of
           the
           Lord
           
             Savill
             ,
          
           who
           was
           then
           my
           Accuser
           ,
           I
           shall
           refer
           my selfe
           to
           the
           Papers
           which
           concerne
           my
           then
           Examinations
           ,
           and
           the
           resolutions
           of
           the
           House
           thereon
           .
        
         
           And
           thus
           much
           I
           am
           informed
           since
           concerning
           
           his
           Lordship
           ,
           that
           he
           hath
           been
           much
           troubled
           at
           what
           he
           then
           did
           ;
           and
           (
           to
           testifie
           his
           remorse
           for
           the
           injury
           he
           then
           did
           unto
           Master
           _____
           and
           my selfe
           )
           his
           Lordship
           sent
           a
           person
           of
           
             Honour
             ,
          
           not
           long
           since
           ,
           to
           me
           ,
           to
           give
           me
           assurance
           thereof
           ,
           further
           declaring
           from
           him
           ,
           
             That
             when
             his
             Composition
             was
             made
             with
             the
             Parliament
             ,
             and
             was
             passed
             by
             both
             Houses
             ,
             he
             would
             then
             discover
             unto
             me
             how
             that
             whole
             businesse
             was
             laid
             against
             me
             ,
             and
             who
             they
             were
             that
             laid
             it
             ;
             which
             when
             I
             knew
             ,
             I
             should
             see
             I
             had
             no
             cause
             to
             be
             so
             angry
             with
             him
             ,
             and
             therefore
             I
             was
             desired
             by
             a
             Peere
             of
             the
             Re●lme
             ,
             (
             who
             came
             from
             him
             not
             to
             be
             against
             him
             in
             setting
             the
             fine
             for
             his
             composition
             ;
             telling
             me
             that
             his
             Lordship
             durst
             not
             discover
             it
             before
             ,
             but
             when
             his
             Composition
             was
             passed
             ,
             he
             would
             let
             me
             know
             the
             particulars
             ,
             the
             le●st
             inckling
             whereof
             (
             to
             come
             from
             him
             to
             their
             knowledge
             ,
             in
             whom
             he
             was
             in
             danger
             )
             might
             prove
             his
             ruine
             .
          
        
         
           Yet
           I
           can
           assure
           you
           (
           to
           speak
           it
           without
           vanity
           )
           I
           (
           knowing
           my
           own
           innocency
           )
           passed
           by
           it
           ,
           never
           so
           much
           as
           sending
           to
           the
           Lord
           
             Savill
          
           about
           it
           ,
           nor
           doing
           his
           Lordship
           any
           dis-service
           for
           his
           former
           malice
           against
           me
           .
        
         
           And
           as
           for
           the
           Letter
           sent
           from
           the
           Earl
           of
           
             Lindsey
          
           to
           me
           ,
           containing
           (
           as
           I
           am
           charged
           )
           some
           secret
           designe
           .
           It
           is
           true
           ,
           I
           received
           a
           Paper
           from
           him
           ,
           after
           which
           it
           was
           my
           unhappinesse
           to
           fall
           sick
           ,
           which
           made
           me
           to
           forget
           it
           for
           some
           time
           ;
           yet
           so
           soone
           as
           it
           came
           to
           my
           minde
           ,
           I
           did
           acquaint
           the
           House
           with
           it
           ;
           the
           contents
           of
           it
           was
           (
           in
           a
           line
           or
           two
           ,
           very
           short
           )
           a
           recommendation
           of
           the
           bearer
           ,
           the
           Lord
           
             Savill
             :
          
           I
           had
           then
           the
           words
           fresh
           in
           my
           minde
           ,
           and
           did
           then
           repeate
           them
           in
           the
           House
           ,
           at
           
           which
           time
           the
           House
           was
           so
           far
           satisfied
           therein
           ,
           that
           this
           House
           
             Resolved
             upon
             the
             Question
             ,
          
           July
           19.
           1645.
           
           
             That
             the
             receiving
             of
             that
             note
             ,
             in
             the
             manner
             as
             I
             did
             ,
             was
             no
             holding
             of
             intelligence
             with
             the
             Enemy
             .
          
        
         
           And
           for
           the
           Paper
           it self
           ,
           I
           do
           not
           know
           what
           became
           of
           it
           ,
           or
           whether
           I
           burnt
           it
           ,
           as
           perhaps
           I
           might
           .
        
         
           Now
           for
           that
           part
           of
           the
           Charge
           which
           chargeth
           me
           that
           the
           Earle
           of
           
             Lindsey
          
           moved
           for
           a
           passe
           to
           go
           to
           
             Oxford
             ,
          
           and
           that
           the
           King
           should
           say
           ,
           That
           I
           did
           him
           better
           service
           in
           the
           Parliament
           ,
           then
           I
           could
           do
           there
           ;
           That
           was
           reported
           to
           this
           House
           from
           the
           Examinations
           of
           what
           the
           Lord
           
             Savill
          
           informed
           against
           me
           ;
           and
           ,
           as
           I
           said
           then
           ,
           so
           now
           ,
           I
           know
           nothing
           of
           it
           ,
           I
           am
           confident
           it
           is
           false
           ;
           the
           Earl
           of
           
             Lindsey
             ,
          
           nor
           any body
           else
           ,
           had
           never
           motion
           to
           any
           such
           desire
           from
           me
           ,
           nor
           had
           I
           ever
           any
           such
           thoughts
           .
        
         
           As
           for
           what
           I
           am
           charged
           in
           the
           second
           Article
           ,
           with
           sending
           severall
           Messages
           to
           the
           Earl
           of
           
             Dorset
          
           and
           the
           Lord
           
             Digby
             ,
          
           or
           to
           joyne
           with
           any
           in
           drawing
           up
           Propositions
           ,
           and
           sending
           them
           privately
           to
           His
           Majesty
           ;
           It
           is
           all
           false
           and
           untrue
           ,
           in
           all
           and
           in
           every
           part
           of
           it
           .
        
         
           To
           that
           in
           the
           third
           Article
           :
           I
           must
           acknowledge
           that
           (
           by
           the
           Lady
           
             Carlisles
          
           favour
           )
           I
           have
           often
           waited
           upon
           her
           ,
           both
           at
           her
           lodgings
           in
           
             Whitehall
             ,
          
           and
           elsewhere
           ,
           but
           never
           with
           any
           disaffested
           persons
           ,
           to
           hold
           correspondency
           with
           the
           Queene
           ,
           to
           put
           Conditions
           upon
           the
           Parliament
           ,
           to
           bring
           in
           the
           King
           upon
           any
           termes
           ,
           by
           our
           plotting
           against
           the
           Parliament
           ,
           or
           to
           do
           any
           other
           thing
           in
           prosecution
           of
           such
           evill
           designes
           ;
           but
           only
           to
           shew
           that
           respect
           which
           is
           due
           to
           a
           Lady
           of
           such
           Honour
           .
        
         
           And
           I
           conceive
           it
           is
           well
           knowne
           to
           this
           House
           ,
           
           that
           I
           have
           been
           alwayes
           so
           farre
           from
           having
           a
           great
           power
           upon
           the
           Treasure
           of
           this
           Kingdome
           ,
           to
           maintaine
           the
           Queenes
           Party
           ,
           assure
           her
           Pention
           ,
           or
           undertake
           to
           doe
           more
           for
           the
           
             King
          
           then
           the
           Army
           would
           doe
           ,
           That
           I
           have
           had
           as
           little
           to
           doe
           with
           money
           businesses
           as
           any
           ;
           I
           have
           not
           growne
           great
           by
           the
           ruines
           of
           others
           by
           these
           sad
           times
           ,
           nor
           preferred
           my selfe
           nor
           friends
           to
           higher
           fortunes
           then
           otherwise
           we
           could
           have
           aspired
           unto
           .
        
         
           And
           that
           I
           should
           send
           unto
           the
           Queene
           ,
           to
           advise
           her
           to
           send
           the
           Prince
           into
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           to
           come
           into
           this
           
             Kingdome
          
           in
           the
           head
           of
           an
           Army
           ,
           or
           invite
           the
           
             Scots
             ,
          
           or
           joyne
           with
           any
           other
           for
           inviting
           the
           
             Scots
             ,
          
           or
           any
           other
           forreigne
           forces
           to
           enter
           this
           Kingdome
           ,
           it
           is
           utterly
           false
           ,
           and
           a
           meere
           invention
           of
           malice
           against
           me
           ;
           nor
           doe
           I
           know
           of
           any
           meanes
           used
           to
           cause
           or
           encourage
           any
           Officers
           or
           Souldiers
           to
           gather
           together
           tumultuously
           at
           
             Westminster
             ,
          
           to
           affright
           and
           assault
           the
           Members
           of
           
             Parliament
             ;
          
           for
           my
           part
           I
           am
           clear
           of
           any
           such
           thing
           .
        
         
           And
           for
           obstructing
           of
           Petitions
           (
           as
           I
           am
           charged
           in
           the
           first
           Article
           )
           when
           Petitioners
           came
           to
           the
           
             Parliament
          
           for
           redresse
           of
           publike
           grievances
           ;
           I
           have
           onely
           delivered
           my
           opinion
           in
           this
           House
           ,
           when
           seditious
           Petitions
           have
           been
           read
           ;
           and
           for
           Major
           
             Tuleday
             ,
          
           and
           
             Nicholas
             Tew
             ,
          
           they
           affronted
           the
           Committee
           ,
           and
           
             Tew
          
           endeavoured
           to
           raise
           a
           Tumult
           in
           the
           Court
           of
           Requests
           ,
           to
           the
           danger
           and
           disturbance
           of
           the
           Committee
           ,
           who
           committed
           them
           both
           untill
           the
           next
           morning
           ,
           which
           was
           approved
           by
           this
           House
           ,
           yet
           (
           upon
           my
           motion
           in
           his
           behalfe
           )
           this
           House
           was
           pleased
           to
           bayle
           Major
           
             Tuleday
             ,
          
           and
           shortly
           after
           Mr.
           
             Tew
          
           was
           discharged
           .
        
         
         
           As
           for
           that
           which
           is
           laid
           upon
           me
           in
           the
           eight
           Article
           ,
           concerning
           the
           drawing
           up
           of
           the
           Declaration
           ,
           it
           was
           done
           in
           this
           House
           ,
           the
           House
           allowing
           it
           ,
           and
           it
           passed
           both
           Houses
           ,
           and
           therefore
           it
           seemes
           strange
           to
           me
           that
           any
           should
           question
           that
           which
           was
           made
           an
           Act
           of
           both
           Houses
           of
           Parliament
           ;
           I
           drew
           it
           up
           indeed
           (
           though
           very
           unwilling
           to
           take
           that
           tax
           upon
           me
           )
           as
           neare
           as
           I
           could
           according
           to
           the
           sence
           of
           the
           House
           ,
           in
           obedience
           to
           a
           generall
           Call
           upon
           me
           for
           it
           ,
           being
           exceedingly
           prest
           and
           urged
           to
           doe
           it
           ,
           as
           you
           well
           know
           .
           And
           for
           the
           reliefe
           of
           
             Ireland
             ,
          
           it
           was
           alwaies
           my
           indeavour
           to
           promote
           it
           ,
           desiring
           that
           an
           intire
           Body
           might
           have
           gone
           out
           of
           the
           Army
           .
        
         
           It
           is
           true
           ,
           some
           forces
           for
           
             Ireland
          
           were
           commanded
           back
           from
           
             Bromsgrove
          
           in
           
             Worcestershire
          
           to
           
             Reading
             ,
          
           which
           was
           ordered
           by
           the
           Committee
           that
           they
           might
           receive
           their
           pay
           safe
           .
           The
           Officers
           then
           representing
           to
           the
           Committee
           the
           great
           necessities
           of
           the
           Souldiers
           ,
           and
           that
           they
           did
           not
           know
           how
           to
           convey
           it
           into
           
             VVorcestershire
          
           in
           safety
           ,
           in
           regard
           that
           it
           must
           passe
           through
           the
           quarters
           of
           the
           Army
           ,
           who
           had
           expressed
           great
           displeasure
           to
           those
           forces
           which
           were
           drawne
           off
           for
           
             Ireland
             ;
          
           and
           the
           Committee
           was
           the
           rather
           induced
           to
           doe
           it
           ,
           because
           they
           knew
           the
           monies
           which
           was
           sent
           to
           
             Oxford
          
           for
           disbanding
           a
           Regiment
           there
           quartered
           ,
           was
           seized
           on
           ,
           which
           feare
           caused
           the
           calling
           back
           of
           those
           to
           
             Reading
             ,
          
           and
           not
           upon
           any
           designe
           whatsoever
           .
        
         
           And
           whereas
           by
           the
           14.
           
           Article
           I
           am
           charged
           with
           those
           Gentlemen
           ,
           to
           obstruct
           Articles
           against
           the
           Lord
           
             Inchiquen
             ,
          
           and
           for
           calling
           back
           the
           Lord
           
             Lisle
             ,
          
           that
           his
           command
           might
           be
           committed
           to
           the
           Lord
           
             Inchiquen
             ,
          
           I
           was
           (
           alwayes
           so
           farre
           from
           keeping
           off
           proceedings
           upon
           those
           Articles
           ,
           that
           I
           furthered
           it
           all
           I
           could
           ,
           and
           severall
           times
           moved
           it
           in
           the
           House
           ,
           being
           very
           desirous
           to
           have
           all
           cleared
           concerning
           the
           Lord
           
             Inchiquen
             ,
          
           whom
           I
           beleeve
           to
           be
           a
           man
           of
           honour
           and
           fidelity
           .
        
         
         
           And
           for
           that
           the
           Lord
           
             Lisles
          
           time
           of
           government
           in
           
             Ireland
          
           was
           expired
           (
           which
           was
           but
           to
           continue
           one
           yeare
           in
           that
           Command
           ;
           )
           the
           Parliament
           being
           pleased
           to
           dispose
           of
           the
           Affaires
           of
           
             Ireland
          
           in
           an
           other
           way
           ;
           I
           went
           in
           the
           severall
           debates
           thereon
           (
           in
           the
           House
           )
           according
           to
           my
           judgement
           and
           conscience
           ,
           not
           respecting
           any
           particular
           Person
           ,
           but
           the
           common
           good
           ;
           and
           for
           the
           writing
           of
           a
           Letter
           to
           put
           out
           all
           those
           who
           favoured
           Independants
           ,
           I
           never
           knew
           of
           any
           such
           thing
           done
           .
        
         
           And
           whereas
           I
           am
           charged
           by
           my
           power
           and
           countenance
           to
           obstruct
           Justice
           in
           the
           cause
           between
           Alderman
           
             Langham
          
           and
           Captaine
           
             Limery
             ,
          
           it
           is
           very
           untrue
           .
           I
           confesse
           ,
           that
           my selfe
           ,
           and
           Sir
           
             Philip
             Stapleton
          
           (
           who
           is
           accused
           with
           me
           )
           being
           one
           afternoone
           in
           the
           Court
           of
           Requests
           ,
           we
           heard
           that
           the
           House
           of
           Lords
           were
           then
           to
           sit
           ,
           we
           went
           to
           aske
           the
           occasion
           thereof
           ,
           and
           meeting
           with
           the
           Earle
           of
           
             Rutland
          
           in
           the
           
             Lobby
             ,
          
           his
           Lordship
           told
           us
           ,
           That
           it
           was
           about
           a
           great
           Cause
           depending
           between
           
             Langham
          
           and
           
             Limery
             ,
          
           and
           we
           had
           some
           discourse
           about
           it
           ,
           but
           I
           did
           not
           understand
           that
           the
           merit
           of
           the
           Cause
           was
           at
           all
           in
           question
           ,
           onely
           the
           entertaining
           of
           it
           upon
           an
           Appeale
           ,
           concerning
           which
           I
           said
           ,
           That
           it
           was
           my
           Opinion
           ,
           that
           it
           was
           the
           common
           Justice
           of
           the
           Kingdome
           ,
           and
           not
           to
           be
           denyed
           to
           any
           :
           This
           was
           all
           that
           passed
           between
           us
           ,
           as
           some
           of
           Master
           
             Limeries
          
           Counsell
           then
           present
           (
           who
           heard
           it
           spoken
           )
           can
           testifie
           .
        
         
           And
           for
           the
           whole
           Charge
           delivered
           into
           this
           House
           against
           me
           from
           the
           Army
           ,
           I
           have
           had
           a
           strict
           scruteny
           over
           my
           conscience
           ,
           and
           have
           made
           enquiry
           upon
           every
           branch
           thereof
           into
           my
           past
           actions
           and
           intentions
           ,
           and
           cannot
           finde
           that
           I
           have
           deserved
           such
           a
           returne
           from
           any
           who
           pretend
           to
           be
           friends
           to
           the
           Parliament
           ,
           and
           peace
           of
           the
           Church
           and
           Kingdome
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
    

