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ANALYTIC TEACHING AND   PHILOSOPHICAL PRAXIS VOLUME 36 (2015-16) 

  
 

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The Case for Philosophy For Children In The English Primary 
Curriculum 

Rhiannon Love  

 

ABSTRACT: The introduction of the new National Curriculum in England, was initially viewed with 

suspicion by practitioners, uneasy about the radical departure from the previous National Curriculum, in 

both breadth and scope of the content.   However, this paper will suggest that upon further reflection 

the brevity of the content could lend itself to a total re-evaluation of the approach to curriculum planning 

in individual schools.   This paper will explore how, far from creating a burden of extra curriculum content, 

Philosophy for Children (P4C) can in fact be a driver for the whole primary curriculum.  With the renewed 

focus on Spiritual, Moral, Social and Cultural Development (SMSC) in England, it will investigate the 

potential for P4C to engage and enhance these areas, which often are neglected or side-lined in the 

primary curriculum.  It will consider the benefits to a class, and indeed school, of creating communities 

of enquiry and how they can influence school ethos, values and vision.   

The paper will also share reflections on my own practice as a new trainer with SAPERE over the past two 

years of training student teachers, colleagues at the university as well as local primary school teachers 

and head teachers.  In addition it will share examples of good practice from three schools where 

Philosophy for Children has been successfully integrated in a variety of models across the whole school 

curriculum.    

Key Words: Philosophy for Children, P4C, curriculum, community of enquiry, primary, education, 

democratic 

FIGURES 

Fig. 1 Statutory requirements of spoken language KS1 & 2 (DFE, 2013:17)    

Fig. 2: Excerpt from the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNICEF, 2012)     

 

INTRODUCTION 

Rationale  

n my role as Senior Lecturer in Teacher Development at Winchester University, I am 
constantly questioned by both students and teachers about the practicality of fitting yet 
another subject into the primary curriculum.  This provided the impetus for this paper, in 

order to be able to articulate to both students and teachers the case for P4C in the primary 
curriculum, with specific examples of how P4C links with the National Curriculum and how this 
might look in practice in a Primary School.   

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     The introduction of the new English National Curriculum was initially viewed with suspicion 
by practitioners (Edwards, 2013; Hannam, 2013; Mackinlay, 2014), uneasy about the departure 
from the previous National Curriculum (NC), in both breadth and scope of the content.   This 
paper will explore how, far from creating a burden of extra curriculum content, P4C could in fact 
be a driver for the whole primary curriculum.  It will consider how P4C might effectively and with 
integrity link to the aims of the new NC (DFE, 2013), whilst also acting as a driver for values 
education; oracy skills and inclusive practice, as well as a focus for Pupil Voice and democratic 
classrooms.  With the renewed focus on Spiritual, Moral, Social and Cultural Development 
(SMSC) in England (DFE, 2014), the paper will also investigate the potential for P4C to engage 
and enhance these areas, which often are neglected or side-lined in the curriculum  (Peterson, 
Lexmond, Hallgarten, & Kerr, 2014).    

     The paper will share reflections on my own practice as a new trainer with SAPERE over the 
past two years of training student teachers, colleagues at the university as well as local primary 
school teachers and head teachers.  It will also share examples of good practice from three schools 
where Philosophy for Children has been successfully integrated in a variety of models across the 
whole school curriculum. 

 The questions I aimed to investigate were –  

- Can P4C be effectively linked with the Primary Curriculum? 
- What potential benefits might result from this? 
- What objections might be posed to this? 
- What issues have arisen in reflecting on my professional practice in teaching student teachers and 

teachers about using P4C in their practice? 

SETTING THE SCENE 

     The movement known as P4C/PwC was first developed in the late 1960’s in the USA by 
Matthew Lipman (Fisher, 2013). Building on the work of Dewey, Lipman (2003) developed the 
P4C programme where children form a Community of Enquiry (CoE) to collaborate in their 
search for meaning and understanding. P4C is perhaps the most widely known PwC programme 
and will be the term I use to cover all aspects of philosophy for/with children. In P4C children are 
encouraged to question, to think, to reason and to make connections between philosophical 
concepts and their own experiences (Murris, 2000), as well as to generate their own questions as a 
focus for the enquiry. 

     Central to P4C is the aforementioned CoE, this pedagogical approach has been well-researched 
(Fisher, 2007; Murris, 2008) and is crucial to the success of P4C.  There are key features of the 
CoE, ranging from the physical eg. pupils sit in a circle to encourage a feeling of equality, to the 
more intangible - within the CoE, pupils develop a sense of security, which encourages them to 
share their opinions honestly, but also to collaborate towards a shared purpose (Jenkins & Lyle, 
2010; Splitter, 2014).  Certain dispositions or attitudes are encouraged in the CoE; although the 
ability to reason is crucial, so too is being open to be reasoned with, coupled with a willingness to 
consider other opinions (Splitter, 2014).  These dispositions are often referred to as the ‘4 C’s of 
P4C’ – namely Collaborative, Critical, Caring and Creative attitudes towards thinking and being 
(Fisher, 2013; Splitter, 2014; SAPERE, 2015; Ward, Allsopp, Shergill, Yates & Smith, 2015).  

 



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LITERATURE REVIEW 

     A decision was made to focus the paper specifically on the more holistic attributes or benefits 
of P4C, as this was what had made an impact on my teaching career and on the children I taught.  
This area has generated limited research, possibly due to the current focus in schools on data or 
performance, which can lead to a fixation on the impact of P4C being ‘measured’, meaning that 
academic attainment is rated above more philosophically informed outcomes such as self-esteem, 
empathy, equality and inclusion (Haynes & Murris, 2011b; Murris, 2008).  The area of Critical 
Thinking, or P4C as a Thinking Skills’ programme has been extensively researched (Topping & 
Trickey, 2007; Trickey & Topping, 2004), similarly much research has been undertaken to 
examine the positive effects of P4C’s dialogic approach to teaching and learning, (Cassidy & 
Christie, 2013; Fisher, 2007; Jenkins & Lyle, 2010; Splitter, 2014), and the decision has been 
made to limit discussions pertaining to both of these areas to where it has wider curriculum 
relevance. 

     Over the last three decades interest in P4C has grown, provoking an ongoing debate into its 
relevance and appropriateness for children and how it might fit into the curriculum (Haynes & 
Murris, 2011; Gaut & Gaut, 2013).   P4C has advocates amongst teachers, academic philosophers 
and teacher educators, however the challenge of how or if it can become part of mainstream 
education, which values individual, often academic achievement almost exclusively, remains 
(Murris, 2008).   Approaching the National Curriculum in a philosophical way means looking 
beneath the surface, to the questions and concepts that interest children (SAPERE, 2015).  Daniel 
and Auriac (2011) and Haynes and Murris (2011b) suggest that P4C is an approach that goes 
beyond taught P4C lessons, with connections possible to all areas of the curriculum, this has been 
challenged though, with authors suggesting that the specific skills and disciplines of philosophy 
would be best served in discrete subject sessions (Splitter, 2014). 

     A key objection towards P4C centres around the question of whether children are actually able 
to philosophise (Fox, 2001; Murris, 2001; Haynes & Murris, 2011).  Often citing Piagetian 
cognitive theories of development, the argument is that young children are incapable of abstract, 
philosophical thought, seen by many as only developing in secondary aged children, sometimes as 
late as 15 or 16 (Fox, 2001).  This objection is firmly rebutted by advocates of P4C, who contest 
that young children are indeed capable of thinking abstractly, considering concepts such as bravery, 
fairness, goodness and evil, but associated with their own experiences and everyday life (Egan, 
2011; Murris, 2001).   

     Another common misconception amongst critics of P4C is that they compare child 
philosophers with adult ones (Murris, 2001).  The first argument to that objection is to make a 
distinction between academic philosophy, where one studies philosophers and their ideas and 
practical philosophy, eg P4C, where children are encouraged to philosophise (Cassidy & Christie, 
2013; Murris, 2000).   P4C is a prime example of a Socratic view of philosophy, where it is a way 
of life and a way of being and doing (Murris, 2001).  In addition, P4C practitioners would concur 
that young children do not enquire philosophically like academic philosophers, but neither do 
they approach mathematics like academic mathematicians, yet we still encourage them to learn 
maths (Murris, 2001), likewise many other areas of the curriculum.   

 

 



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NATIONAL CURRICULUM LINKS 

     The National Curriculum (NC) (DFE, 2013) arose out of ‘a desire to drive standards and raise 
expectations’ (HCC, 2014:2).  No longer a prescriptive document  (Mackinlay, 2014), schools have 
the freedom to design their own programmes, including other subjects or topics of their choice 
(DFE, 2013). The NC document highlights explicit skills and content expected to be taught to 
children at different key stages; a selection of these skills will be examined for their links to P4C.  

     In English for example, teachers are expected to teach children to speak with clarity and 
confidence, they should “learn to justify ideas with reasons; ask questions to check understanding; 
develop vocabulary and build knowledge; negotiate; evaluate and build on the ideas of others; and 
select the appropriate register for effective communication” (DFE, 2013:10), as well as having the 
ability to challenge and amend misconceptions. These skills are seen as crucial for pupils to be able 
to take their future place as members of society and are used across the curriculum to support their 
social, linguistic and cognitive development.  These oracy skills have been shown to improve with 
introduction to P4C; Trickey and Topping (2004) found P4C to be the cause of children showing 
significant improvements in their communication, confidence, participation and social behaviour 
in just 6 months of P4C input.  

     The statutory requirements for S & L (DFE, 2013:17) (seen in Fig.1) lay out specific skills that 
must be taught across KS1 & 2.  The italic sections demonstrate skills that research has argued can 
be developed by P4C (Colom, Moriyón, Magro, & Morilla, 2014; SAPERE, 2013; Topping & 
Trickey, 2007; Trickey & Topping, 2004): 

Statutory requirements  

Pupils should be taught to: 

 listen and listen and respond appropriately to adults and their peers 
 ask relevant questions to extend their understanding and knowledge 
 use relevant strategies to build their vocabulary  
 articulate and justify answers, arguments and opinions 
 give well-structured descriptions, explanations and narratives for different purposes, including for 

expressing feelings  
 maintain attention and participate actively in collaborative conversations, staying on topic and 

initiating and responding to comments  
 use spoken language to develop understanding through speculating, hypothesising, imagining and 

exploring ideas 
 speak audibly and fluently with an increasing command of Standard English 
 participate in discussions, presentations, performances, role play, improvisations and 

debates 
 gain, maintain and monitor the interest of the listener(s) 
 consider and evaluate different viewpoints, attending to and building on the contributions of 

others 
 select and use appropriate registers for effective communication. 

Fig. 1 Statutory requirements of spoken language KS1 & 2 (DFE, 2013:17)  



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     Speaking and listening are fundamental skills, not only for developing intelligence (Cassidy & 
Christie, 2013; Fisher, 2013; Jenkins & Lyle, 2010), but also for our ability to communicate and 
thus form relationships.  Research shows that the quality of classroom talk has the power to enable 
or inhibit cognition and learning (Alexander, 2006; Fisher, 2007).  Additionally, schools who 
embedded P4C into their Literacy curriculum with the aim of improving S & L found that 
incorporating philosophical enquiry also improved the quality of children’s writing (Ward et al., 
2015); the opportunity to initially orally articulate their thinking impacting on their subsequent 
written tasks.  In Mathematics, the NC requires children to ‘reason mathematically by following a 
line of enquiry, conjecturing relationships and generalisations, and developing an argument, 
justification or proof using mathematical language’ (DFE, 2013:99), whilst encouraging pupils to 
also appreciate, enjoy and be curious about the more aesthetic side of mathematics’ beauty and 
power.    In Science, again the importance of spoken language is reiterated, enabling children to 
share their thoughts with clarity and precision. Pupils must be taught to experience, be curious 
and ask questions – exemplification given ‘Is a flame alive? Is a deciduous tree dead in winter?’ 
(DFE, 2013:151) – arguably carries a philosophical dimension.   In Art and Design and Design 
and Technology, the NC (DFE, 2013) advocates creativity  as well as criticality – two of the 4 C’s 
of P4C (Fisher, 2013; SAPERE, 2015). This focus on creativity is encouraging as initially the draft 
curriculum raised concerns that the emphasis was on knowledge acquisition to the detriment of 
creativity (Mackinlay, 2014).   In Geography, teachers are called to ‘inspire in pupils a curiosity 
and fascination about the world and its people that will remain with them for the rest of their 
lives’ (DFE, 2013:187). In this subject there is great scope for P4C due to the underpinning 
philosophical concepts – for example: ownership, place, responsibility and sustainability to name 
but a few (SAPERE, 2015).   Similar links with P4C skills can be seen in many other curriculum 
areas of the NC document (DFE, 2013).   

     In addition, the idea of enquiry-led learning promoted in the NC (DFE, 2013), is also an 
integral element of P4C;  which trains teachers to facilitate philosophical enquiries with rigorous 
reasoning at its heart (Colom et al., 2014).  This is supported by Haynes (2014) who states that 
this enquiry-led approach needs to be embedded across the curriculum and Fisher (2007), who 
writes that children ‘need to be exposed to and involved in enquiry with different voices, ideas and 
perspectives’ (p616), as through this dialogue they will start the process of making meaning. 

USING P4C AS A DRIVER FOR OTHER AGENDAS 

     It might therefore be claimed that P4C can be integrated into many different areas of the 
curriculum, including helping to achieve the aims and statutory requirements of the NC (DFE, 
2013).  However there are also arguments for using the pedagogy to promote a range of different 
initiatives;  SAPERE (2015) documents examples across the world where P4C is being used for 
agendas as varied as democracy, social improvement and values/morality.  As Murris (2008) writes, 
the education climate currently is such that many who would endeavour to include P4C in Primary 
schools are validating their arguments by ‘highlighting its compatibility with a number of current 
agenda items for education—raising standards, teaching thinking skills, creativity, citizenship, 
inclusion and emotional literacy’ (p672).  Haynes and Murris (2011b) warn however that ‘in order 
to get a foot in the classroom, PwC practitioners often justify the inclusion of PwC in the 
curriculum by arguing that it will produce more ‘skilled’ thinkers, readers, writers, team-players, 
selves or  citizens’ (p289). Their fear is that considerations of how P4C can enrich education can 
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P4C As A Values Driver/Moral Education 

     The temptation for P4C to be linked to different agendas or initiatives might be seen as 
understandable as many of the holistic effects of the programme can be seen to enhance other 
areas, sometimes referred to as the hidden curriculum (Kirk, 1992), which traditionally are seen to 
be unintended lessons, values or norms that are side effect of the taught programme .   Working 
within a CoE helps instil and perfect cogitative, emotional and behavioural habits in children, as 
they are constantly being reminded of, or referred to, the dispositions or 4 C’s of P4C (Critical, 
Caring, Collaborative and Creative Thinking) (Fisher, 2013; SAPERE, 2015; Splitter, 2014; Ward 
et al., 2015).  The intention of teaching children in this way is to help them make better 
judgements, and to take into account their emotions and those of others, one of the aims of the 
NC (DFE, 2013). 

     P4C is being increasingly used as a platform or driver for Values or Moral Education.  Education 
is in favour of teaching children to become active and responsible citizens (Costello, 2013; DFE, 
2013) with opportunities highlighted in the NC (DFE, 2013) e.g. in the PE programme of study it 
stipulates that children are exposed to situations that ‘build character and help to embed values 
such as fairness and respect’ (p198) and in Design and Technology pupils need to learn to ‘solve 
real and relevant problems within a variety of contexts, considering their own and others’ needs, 
wants and values’ (p184).  

     Intrinsic to the P4C pedagogy are values such as tolerance and respect. Differences of opinion 
between people are welcomed for the opportunities to learn from each other, constructing new 
collaborative meaning in the process (Murris, 2008).   In the CoE, characteristics such as ‘empathy, 
agreeableness, cooperation, attentiveness, and so forth, become non-cognitive factors systematically 
fostered’ (Garcia et al., 2002 in Colom et al., 2014: 55), helping to develop both children’s thinking 
and their moral and social development (Haynes & Murris, 2013).  An example of this can be seen 
in Rokeby School (a community secondary school for boys, located in the London Borough of 
Newham), where P4C is credited for the transformation of behaviour (Ward et al., 2015).  The 
school claims that P4C is core not only to the academic progress at the school but also supporting 
behaviour.  They have seen the CoE strengthening the community of the school, leading to an 
increase in team spirit and respectful behaviour.  

     There are objections voiced towards this approach, with concerns that a focus on promoting 
tolerance, understanding and respect can lead to criticality being lost, and an ensuing reluctance 
to challenge opinions or beliefs (Haynes & Murris, 2011b).   Gardner (1996) would argue however, 
that skilful facilitation by the P4C teacher ensures that enquiries are not ‘mere conversation’, 
rather push at all times for depth and progress towards truth (p102).  Respectful dialogue is at all 
times non-negotiable in P4C, yet crucially there is the understanding that ideas, practices and 
opinions must be justified and critically examined (Haynes & Murris, 2011b).   

     Hayes (2014) states that in his view children have little to contribute to philosophical issues, 
that typically, ‘their insights come down to the banalities’ (online). This objection is both 
patronising and belittling towards children. Children should be encouraged to care about social 
justice, to make judgements about beliefs and opinions of themselves and others, but most 
importantly, be open and ready to amend their opinions as necessary, as Splitter (2014) suggests, ‘ 
we should always allow room for that small voice that whispers to us, even in the face of our 
strongest convictions, “Yes, but I might be mistaken”’ (p105).   This theme is examined further in 
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Using P4C to Enhance SMSC 

     Closely linked to the area of Values is Spiritual, Moral, Social and Cultural Development 
(SMSC).  Clearly stated at the start of the NC as part of the aim for a ‘broad and balanced 
curriculum’(DFE, 2013:5), SMSC is intrinsically linked to a more holistic primary curriculum.  
SMSC, although present in education documentation since the 1980s, is experiencing a renewed 
focus in recent Ofsted (Office for Standards in Education, Children's Services and Skills) 
inspections (DFE, 2014).   One of the challenges that schools face is how to make SMSC a 
meaningful part of their curriculum, rather than a reaction to the Ofsted agenda (Peterson et al., 
2014).  Peterson et al. (2014)’s report found that the majority of schools paid either cursory 
attention to SMSC or attempted to fit it in everywhere, leading to superficial coverage at best.  
They reported that the key area of neglect concerned Spirituality.  This is possibly due to the 
indeterminacy of meaning, as well as teacher discomfort and lack of confidence around the 
‘teaching’ of spirituality.  Rowson (2014) argued that the term ‘spirituality’ lacks clarity because it 
is so wide-ranging; ‘our search for meaning, our sense of the sacred, the value of compassion, the 
experience of transcendence, the hunger for transformation’ (p18).  All of these are fundamental 
features of humanity and as such  vital that they are shared and explored in a safe way with children 
(Peterson et al., 2014; Rowson, 2014).   Central to the definition given by Ofsted for Spirituality 
(DFE, 2014), is reflection – this is built into the CoE, and therefore is perfectly attuned to the 
demands of SMSC. Themes or concepts which are dealt with in P4C (such as truth, beauty, 
morality, wisdom, reality, goodness etc.) are also those that lie at the heart of SMSC and children 
should be encouraged to think about and reflect upon their importance in both their lives and in 
that of society (Splitter, 2014). 

Democratic Classrooms/Pupil Voice  

     One of the arguments for embedding a P4C pedagogy into the Primary curriculum is centred 
around the idea of democratic practice in schools – sometimes referred to as Rights Respecting 
Education, strongly linked to the UN Charter, and issues of Pupil Voice (Fisher, 2007; Murris, 
2008; Haynes & Murris, 2013). Murris (2008) highlights this, positing that democracy is 
understood to include ‘moral principles such as freedom and equality of opportunity and implies 
that schools make space for children to actively participate as citizens in contexts that are 
meaningful to them’ (p670).   This is a significant epistemological shift as education is traditionally 
undemocratic, with children obliged to attend and with little choice, particularly at Primary level, 
over what they study (Haynes & Murris, 2011b). For schools this may mean a re-evaluation of 
current structures as, if this is to be more than mere lip-service to democracy, it will mean creating 
space for children’s voices to be heard on wide ranging issues, not only in the classroom, but also 
regarding wider decision making, such as curriculum and ethos (Haynes & Murris, 2011b).   The 
P4C approach to education strives to move away from the traditional classroom of the 
authoritarian teacher, towards a dialogic environment, where children’s voices are listened to and 
dialogue is key to their development as learners (Fisher, 2007; Jenkins & Lyle, 2010; Haynes, 
2014).  This approach to teaching also supports United Nation Convention on the Rights of the 
Child articles 12 – 14  (UNICEF, 2012) as seen in Figure 2, italics indicating potential links with 
P4C. 



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Figure 2: Excerpt from the summary of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNICEF, 
2012) 

     Traditional teacher-centred approaches have been criticised, due to their limitations for 
children to have either the space to voice their own ideas, or to respond to those of others (Jenkins 
& Lyle, 2010).  P4C and similar approaches change the power structure in the classroom, creating 
new classroom dynamics, where the children’s voices aspire to have equal weight to that of the 
teacher (Haynes & Murris, 2011a).    Fisher (2007) states ‘They [the children] need to be given a 
voice, a voice to question, to challenge, to construct and deconstruct the meanings around them’ 
(p620).   This redressing of the balance of authority in the class, where children have equal right 
to participate and for their views to be heard, (Haynes & Murris, 2011b) is not without issue.  
Some teachers see this as a lack of control, or a diminishing of the role of the teacher (Haynes, 
2014), rather than an empowering of the children (Lyle & Thomas-Williams, 2011; Splitter, 2014).  
It is important to note however, that this right to participate does not become an insistence that 
all participate; contrary to the implication by Ecclestone and Hayes (2009) that children who do 
not respond are seen to be ‘repressing feelings and concealing inner trauma’ (p43),  coercion has 
no place in the CoE, children are free to participate as and when they feel comfortable to do so 
(Haynes & Murris, 2011b). 

P4C as Inclusive Practice 

     Inclusiveness is a fundamental principle of P4C (Cassidy & Christie, 2013).  Its primarily oral 
nature enables all pupils to participate, giving an equal voice to less academically able students, 
excluded from much of the curriculum biased towards writing (Alexander, 2006; Murris, 2008; 
Ward et al., 2015).  Additionally, it practises and develops these oral skills which are essential for 
pupils to participate confidently in society (DFE, 2013).  Benefits of P4C have also been shown to 
include aspects such as increased self-esteem, gains in literacy and numeracy, significantly in those 
less able; transformed attitudes towards learning and more thoughtful and reflective responses 
across the wider curriculum (Topping & Trickey, 2007).  Increasingly English schools are seeing 
P4C as a potential approach for helping disadvantaged children to close the attainment gap, often 
reporting changes noted after only a few P4C enquiries.  Children, whose voices previously were 
rarely shared, demonstrating willingness to participate in the CoE, surprising themselves and 
others with their depth of thought, consequently boosting self-confidence across the curriculum 

Article 12 (respect for the views of the child) 

Every child has the right to say what they think in all matters affecting them, and to have their views 

taken seriously. 

Article 13 (freedom of expression) 

Every child must be free to say what they think and to seek and receive all kinds of information, as 

long as it is within the law. 

Article 14 (freedom of thought, belief and religion) 

Every child has the right to think and believe what they want and also to practise their religion, as long 

as they are not stopping other people from enjoying their rights. Governments must respect the rights 

of parents to give their children information about this right. 



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(SAPERE, 2015).  Topics such as death, bereavement, image, fears and friendship can be explored 
collaboratively, within the safe philosophical space created by P4C, enabling children to explore 
areas not often covered by the curriculum, but also have their opinions heard and validated by 
others (Ward et al., 2015). 

BENEFITS OF P4C 

     As mentioned in the Introduction, the focus for this paper was enquiring into the more holistic 
benefits of P4C.  Ecclestone and Hayes (2009) are vociferous critics of P4C as an example of what 
they see as ‘therapeutic education’, which seeks to encourage empathy, self-esteem and emotional 
literacy; leading in their opinion to ‘the debasing of education’ (p151).  They claim that P4C is 
easily hijacked into indiscriminating advancement of ‘emotional well-being’ at the expense of 
criticality, logic or reason (p33). Ecclestone and Hayes (2009) claim that there is a lack of challenge 
from teachers over the content of the dialogue, with ‘all views accepted unconditionally’ (p33).  
Whilst this might occur with inexperienced facilitators, these objections can be refuted as they 
concern incorrect application of P4C rather than the pedagogy itself, which will be explored 
subsequently in more detail.   

     In addition to the many holistic benefits of P4C already discussed, one significant benefit is 
that of the collaborative nature of P4C.  Many theorists expound on the benefits of working 
collaboratively (Burke & Williams, 2008).  The inherent structure of P4C provides an opportunity 
for genuine collaboration, where the process of learning itself is a shared one (Cassidy & Christie, 
2013). The CoE is set up to facilitate collaborative learning, the principle that together the 
community is moving towards a new, shared understanding of the question at hand (Haynes & 
Murris, 2013).   The collaborative nature of P4C provides children with opportunities to hear 
different points of view, alternative insights and ways of thinking as well as the opportunity to 
critically analyse and judge the reasoning behind the thinking and thus change their mind.   

Examples of Good Practice from Three Schools 

     The first school I visited is a small village primary school (4 – 11 year olds) with approximately 
100 children on their roll, where P4C was introduced in 2011.  Initially trialled in one class, the 
motivation for introducing P4C was to try to raise the level of questioning in Religious Education 
(RE) from the typical ‘teacher-led’ question/answer to genuine dialogue, led and progressed by the 
children, with the teacher as a mere ‘facilitator’.  The curriculum for RE in Hampshire is centred 
around both concepts and enquiry and therefore seemed to be a natural partner for P4C.  After 
introducing P4C the change made to the class’ dialogue was marked, not only that, but the school 
reported that within weeks of it being introduced to this class they experienced an unexpected 
impact in the behaviour of the children.  Although not previously a class that had great behavioural 
issues, the lunchtime support staff noticed two significant impacts – firstly that the children were 
not needing adult intervention to help them to resolve their conflicts, and secondly that when the 
children were resolving their conflicts, their language had changed – they were using the language 
they had been introduced to in their P4C lessons, to help them to disagree respectfully and 
courteously and to be able to reason with each other. This impact led to the whole school – 
teaching and support staff - being trained in P4C.  Although primarily used to enhance RE, the 
school reported that they found it was a perfect method to explore their values as a school and 
subsequently it has been embedded across the curriculum.  The school was chosen to feature on 
Ofsted’s (the School Inspection service) good practice website, where it was mentioned that ‘the 
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been a catalyst for wider developments in teaching and learning across the school.’  Within a year 
the school was inspected by SIAS (the church school’s inspection service) where the provision for 
RE was rated Outstanding, with specific reference made to the impact of P4C, and in particular 
the skills of questioning, thinking and reflection, they saw used throughout the curriculum. 

     The second case study was a large Church of England Junior School (7 – 11 year olds), with a 
school roll of approximately 240 children.   As a SAPERE Silver Award P4C school, all members 
of staff have completed SAPERE level 1 P4C training, in addition they also employ an experienced 
P4C Facilitator (who is also an accredited SAPERE trainer) for 1 ½ days/week to lead P4C, aiding 
with planning, facilitation, training and supporting teachers etc.   In this school P4C, although 
used across the curriculum, is primarily seen linked with English and in particular to support and 
improve writing.  They have found that through P4C enquiries the children have become more 
engaged with stories, poems and literary texts; in addition to developing the skills of reading, 
writing, speaking and listening. Through engaging with the text in a deeper way, the children are 
subsequently more able to ask questions, think and talk more deeply about important issues in 
life, and in response their writing has more purpose. Moreover as the children have the chance to 
articulate their thinking about concepts, sharing their ideas through philosophical enquiry, they 
then transfer these ideas to their writing (Allsopp, 2015).  On a learning walk around the school 
it was clear that P4C had a high status, with displays in every classroom, including the writing 
resulting from the philosophical enquiries (one of the class questions here was ‘Could you survive 
on your own?’ – all tied in with a stimulus about the Mars space programme). 

     The third case study school was a large urban community primary school (4 – 11 years) with 
approximately 210 children on their books.  As with the previous case study, all teaching staff were 
trained in P4C to Level 1 with SAPERE.  The teacher I spoke to reported how P4C had changed 
how they worked as a school.  P4C was now so much part of the school’s ethos that it was apparent 
in all parts of school life and had inspired a move to genuine democratic practice throughout the 
school.  As well as carrying out full P4C enquiries in class, the school used the P4C approach to 
make all of the decisions in the school, with the children actively involved in all decision making 
– from the topics that they study each half term, to the furniture in the library, to the colour of 
the bathroom walls! One teacher told me that making decisions without involving the children 
would be unthinkable. 

     Questioning is at the heart of the school’s curriculum, which was evident in the displays around 
the school.  The skills learnt through P4C are utilised in all areas of school life, whether evaluating 
the topics they have just studied, choosing the learning values for the school, or engaging in 
dialogue around the charities they want to support that year.  The teacher explained how dialogue 
had become a central feature of the school, with children confident to engage in both partner, 
small group and whole group dialogue, with emphasis on Pupil Voice, where everyone has a right 
to have their opinion heard.  The teachers at this school felt that P4C had significantly impacted 
on their teacher identity, particularly identifying how they felt they not only listened more to the 
children now, but also that how they listened to the children had changed: previously they had 
been listening for a particular response, now they felt that they were genuinely listening to what 
the children were saying, also they felt they were now confident to push for more depth from 
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REFLECTIONS ON P4C TRAINING 

     Brookfield (1995) suggests reflective practice can help challenge certain assumptions, some of 
which resonated with regard to P4C.  One assumption that he contests, is the idea that students 
do not like or need to have didactic lectures.  He discusses the importance of grounding in a subject 
area before students are able to engage critically with new ideas/thinking.  This is reassuring as my 
introduction to the P4C module is very theoretical, explaining the pedagogy behind P4C as well 
as its background.  Another assumption that Brookfield (1995) raises, concerns seating students 
in a circle.  This is central to P4C, suggestive of democratic principles and practices, however 
Brookfield suggests that for less confident students, the circle can be ‘a painful and humiliating 
experience’ (1995:9). He defends this position by expounding that the circle, whilst a place of safety 
to many, on the contrary can remove privacy; demand performance and become oppressive.  I 
found this quite disquieting to read as it challenges all the theory I have so far read about the 
benefits of circles (Lang, 1998; Splitter, 2014) and will continue to reflect on Brookfield’s warnings 
in my own practice.  However, this reinforces the importance of the CoE as discussed previously 
(Cassidy & Christie, 2013;  Haynes & Murris, 2013).  Only once the community is built, will all 
participants feel confident to speak out, to disagree and to allow their thinking to be challenged 
(Splitter, 2014).   Brookfield (1995) continues that the group power dynamic can reflect inequities 
and that in order to combat this the teacher must model both respectful disagreement as well as 
constructive criticism, or critical and caring thinking in P4C terminology (Fisher, 2007).  In one 
module with students, one member of the community made a joke at another student’s expense.  
Although meant (and taken) in fun, I felt it was important that it was challenged, as it directly 
contradicted one of the 4 C’s - Caring Thinking (Fisher, 2007; Splitter, 2014) and potentially could 
deter less confident students from participating.    

Preparing Students/Teachers to Facilitate P4C 

     Burke and Williams (2008) found that a crucial element to the success of their work on critical 
thinking in schools was the preparation of the teachers, advocating the use of modelling to enable 
teacher confidence.  Whilst I too would support this, their strategy was to use videos of good 
practice, whereas for me part of the ingredient for a successful course is that the teachers/students 
can see the trainer’s genuine enthusiasm/belief in what they are training – it remains open to 
question whether a video would be as successful at conveying this element.  Burke and Williams 
(2008) advocate ongoing support throughout the initial training process. I agree that support needs 
to continue until the practitioner is fully confident, however in my observations of practice in 
schools occasionally too much support has been provided.  This can have a detrimental effect as 
teachers can come to rely on it, without taking the risks, which inherently lead to furthering 
expertise and practice.   

Challenges of Training 

     A key component of P4C is the centrality of engaging with concepts (Splitter, 2014), therefore 
it is necessary to dedicate sufficient time with teachers or students preparing them not only to 
become familiar with concepts, but also how to discuss them, work with them, help children to 
engage with them and make connections between them.  Working with concepts is one of many 
challenges of training in P4C.   A key challenge is philosophy itself.  Most teachers or students 
desiring to train in P4C have no formal background in philosophy (Haynes & Murris, 2011b; 
Splitter, 2014).  This can cause tensions in the philosophy community, with some members 
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to help children make progress (Haynes & Murris, 2011b; Murris, 2008).  Splitter saw a danger 
that if students were not engaged in genuine inquiry, grappling with concepts on a philosophical 
level, their thinking could potentially be stuck at ‘the level of the purely experiential and anecdotal’ 
(2014:96).  SAPERE (2013) suggest that as P4C involves practical philosophy not academic 
philosophy, qualifications in philosophy are not necessary, however trainers do need to provide at 
least a philosophical overview, in order to help teachers to facilitate appropriately (Haynes & 
Murris, 2011b; Splitter, 2014). The necessity of philosophical rigour can cause anxiety for teachers, 
leading to concerns that they will not be capable of enabling the children to form philosophical 
questions (Haynes & Murris, 2011b), indeed this was my own fear when I was introduced to P4C, 
which thankfully was proved unfounded – thus reinforcing Splitter’s (2014) belief that children 
can deal with very complex philosophical concepts as long as they are suitably presented.   

     Another significant challenge for trainees is the shifting power roles in the P4C classroom.  In 
my experience this is greeted with enthusiasm by student teachers, keen to foster a democratic, 
child-centred classroom; equally some experienced teachers embrace this opportunity to encourage 
the child’s voice.  However other teachers take a more traditional view of power in the classroom, 
confident in their role as the authority figure, their inclination is ‘to anticipate and correct, 
respond and direct an answer toward the goals of the lesson’ (Haynes & Murris, 2011b: 287).  For 
these teachers, the unpredictable nature of P4C, ‘the questioning and democratic nature of the 
community of enquiry can be demanding and unsettling […] presenting unaccustomed challenges 
and moral dilemmas’ (Haynes & Murris, 2011b: 285).    Equally, the fact that the enquiry cannot 
be planned to the last detail is disconcerting to some teachers.  With student teachers it is necessary 
to give them ‘permission’ to move away from the traditional lesson plan, learning objectives and 
success criteria, to follow a more fluid enquiry that is genuinely led by the children – something 
that again can cause disquiet in certain experienced teachers who prefer the more ‘controlled’ 
classroom.  Teachers have commented to me that initially the freedom of the enquiry can feel 
threatening and requires an element of trust in the pupils and the community.  One such teacher 
subsequently reported that this has invigorated not only her teaching, but herself as an educator.  
This new vision of themselves as facilitator is crucial for the success of the community, with the 
two key roles; firstly to enable the pupils to engage in the community’s dialogue, and secondly to 
encourage them to engage critically – by constantly seeking pupils to give reasons, challenge 
assumptions and provide examples (Splitter, 2014). 

     One common misconception amongst trainees concerns the ‘safety of the community’ (Haynes 
& Murris, 2011a: 295).  When discussing this fundamental feature, whereby the CoE becomes a 
place where children dare to share their emerging thoughts and opinions, it is important to clarify 
that this is not to encourage permissiveness.  The erroneous product of the idea that there are no 
right or wrong answers in philosophy, is a belief that ideas cannot and should not be challenged, 
potentially leading to ‘intellectual complacency’ (Haynes & Murris, 2011b; Murris, 2008; Splitter, 
2014: 92).  Haynes and Murris (2011b) suggest that this misunderstanding results potentially in a 
lack of rigour.  They suggest normalising disagreement in the CoE, where each participant is 
listened to courteously, with their views considered, however with criticality present, where ‘some 
contributions can still be treated as invalid, incorrect or irrelevant by the community of enquiry’ 
(Haynes & Murris, 2011b: 295).   This can prove disquieting for teachers anxious to promote a 
harmonious classroom, the idea that disagreement can be positive and provide critical learning 
opportunities for children should be explored with trainees, otherwise it can lead to teachers 
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     In my experience of training both students and teachers in P4C, I have found that these 
challenges conversely become positive, causing educators to reassess both their philosophy on 
education as well as their personal philosophy as teachers.  This is supported by Haynes & Murris 
(2011b) , who discuss the idea of ‘recurring moments of disequilibrium’ (p291); moments of 
experience that are troubling or disturbing for [student] teachers.   Murris (2008) adds that 
although these moments highlight the challenges for trainees, it also emphasises the rich 
opportunities that P4C can bring to the classroom and to the teacher. As the trainee (and indeed 
the class) learn how to become a CoE through active participation, their practice will be shaped, 
informed, renewed and potentially transformed (Murris, 2008); 

‘Disequilibrium is a positive force that opens up a space in which educators need to 
reflect upon their values, their beliefs about learning and teaching, and ultimately 
encourages educators to rethink their own role’ (Murris, 2008: 667). 

Reflections on Training Students 

     Considering Brookfield (1998)’s lenses of reflective practice, all four lenses seem applicable 
when training students.  Firstly my own experience of being trained in P4C is something I draw 
on constantly in my sessions, ensuring I share with them my experiences – both positive and 
negative, to help them to develop their facilitation.  Reflection opportunities from the students 
are timetabled in throughout our seminars, discussing their growing understanding of the theory, 
but also sharing their own experiences as they start to practise in schools, with a final module 
evaluation at the end.  Again this is modelling practice (Burke & Williams, 2008; Lyle & Thomas-
Williams, 2011), as reflection is built into P4C enquiry – individual, collective and facilitator.   
Brookfield (1995) emphasises the benefit of reflection to avoid the risk of continually making 
potentially poor decisions/bad judgement calls.    

     As a new trainer in P4C I have been moderated both in training students and tutors.  This has 
provided me with opportunities for reflection through another of Brookfield (1998)’s lenses – that 
of colleagues’ perceptions.  My personal reflection post-training, was a concern that I had 
overloaded the day – however my mentor shared that she felt the day was a good balance of theory 
and practice.  As Brookfield (1998) writes, we can focus on our own perceived ‘failings’, therefore 
the affirming feedback of an experienced practitioner was very encouraging.  Additionally she was 
also able to discuss different strategies and approaches she employs in the training, which I will 
incorporate into future modules.   I am aware that Brookfield (1998)’s fourth lens uses theoretical, 
philosophical, and research literature as a reflection tool.  Using literature to support practice is 
embedded in Winchester’s degree programme and as such is incorporated throughout the module.  
In this way, the students benefit from a level of underpinning with research and theory that is not 
possible in the commercial 2 day SAPERE course. 

Reflections on Training Tutors 

     Over the past two years over 30 curriculum tutors from Teacher Development at the University 
of Winchester have undertaken P4C training.  The first P4C course I ran was with tutors - the fact 
that they were my colleagues was daunting and less daunting in equal measures.  Daunting because 
they were all very experienced lecturers at the university and I was apprehensive regarding their 
response to the course and myself, but equally it was less daunting as I knew they were genuinely 
interested in P4C and supportive of myself and my plans for the students.  I was also nervous due 
to being moderated by SAPERE, in order to be accredited as a Level 1Trainer.  At the end of the 



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first day the moderator and I shared our reflections - it was useful having an observer, as the intense 
nature of the day would have made it hard to remember different aspects without their notes!  This 
is similar to the peer observations we participate in at university – in contrast to the often negatively 
perceived lesson observations in school settings, these are collaborative and informative, intended 
on highlighting good practice and key reflections.  We discussed ways I could improve the session 
for future courses, particularly trying to break up the quite intense first theory session with a couple 
of activities to change the pace a little.  We also discussed potential amendments to Day 2 as a 
result of our reflections – for example I decided to add extra detail about the six main branches of 
philosophy to add more clarity about potential philosophical areas and how this might influence 
stimulus choice.    

Reflections on Training Teachers 

     The level of experience that the teachers bring to the training is evident in comparison to the 
students.  There are however potentially negative aspects to this, as sometimes the practice of P4C 
might challenge their own perceptions of education – as previously discussed.  In running the first 
P4C training outwith the university, I had anticipated a level of nervousness due to the fact that 
this was a commercial course run for the Diocese, in practice I experienced a level of collegiality 
and enthusiasm equal to the tutors’ training.  What was particularly gratifying was the fact that the 
teachers immediately return to schools to use this approach with their classes, meaning the 
subsequent day’s training (one month later) starts with them sharing their reflections from their 
first enquiries, which is very rewarding to hear and, using Brookfield (1998)’s lens analogy, means 
that they can benefit from their colleagues’ perceptions and experiences to further develop their 
own. 

CONCLUSIONS 

Reviewing the Key Questions 

     The first question was ‘Can P4C be effectively linked with the Primary Curriculum?’  My 
response is twofold.  Firstly that it should not be seen as an additional curriculum subject.  Finding 
time to include a separate programme would pose difficulties for most schools (Burke & Williams, 
2008). Incorporating P4C throughout the curriculum, whether to drive a particular area of focus 
or embedded in different subjects, has the benefit of incorporating the many P4C skills alongside 
the  curriculum content (Burke & Williams, 2008).  Secondly, P4C should not be statutory. Murris 
(2008) suggests that if P4C was compulsory, it ‘may be at risk of losing its philosophical rigour, 
and critical educational and political agenda’ (p676). Whilst remaining convinced of the manifold 
benefits of P4C, it is one that depends on participants fully embracing both the training and the 
continuing development.  

     The second and third questions, concerned the potential benefits of, and objections to P4C. 
One of Hayes’(2014) criticisms of P4C is that it is akin to therapy.  Whilst there can be therapeutic 
outcomes, P4C facilitators and trainers would insist that this is not an intended outcome (Murris, 
2001), rather one of a variety of non-academic benefits.  In both my own experience and from 
those I have trained, teachers often remark that P4C adds a new dimension to their teaching as 
well as to the way their pupils think (Fisher, 2007). 

     Finally I examined the question of the issues that have arisen in reflecting on my professional 
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inexperienced teachers or students.  Certainly training experienced teachers is very different to 
training students, however in my experience the impact it can have on students’ emerging teacher 
identity can be profound.  Last semester’s cohort named it as the best module of their degree and 
unanimously stated that it had impacted significantly on the kind of teacher they wanted to be.  
Many of them highlighted the democratic principles of P4C as something they wanted to emulate 
in their future classrooms, seeing the philosophy behind P4C as more wide-reaching than a 
curriculum approach.   

Future Implications 

     In response to student demand, two Option Modules will be run in P4C in the current 
academic year.  In addition, we have increased the coverage of P4C in the first two years of the 
BEd programme, meaning all students will receive an Introduction to P4C SAPERE qualification.  
This semester has seen P4C training for both the PGCE Part Time and Secondary Religious 
Education groups, in response to direct requests – a practice likely to continue.  Training for a 
third group of ITE tutors is planned for the spring, with planned CPD training with the Diocese 
and Church Schools already timetabled for next year. 

 

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Address Correspondences to:  
Rhiannon Love 
Senior Lecturer (Primary Religious Education & Philosophy for Children)  
Department for Teacher Development, Faculty of Education, Health and Social Care  
University of Winchester Winchester  SO22 4NR 
Rhiannon.Love@winchester.ac.uk 


