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grbs-6311	Demand, Nancy	Plato, Aristophanes, and the Speeches of Pythagoras	1982	6	.pdf	application/pdf	2802	88	53	Nevertheless, someone in Ath­ ens was expressing Pythagorean ideas around 424, or Aristophanes would not have had them to mingle into his portrait of Socrates-can we reasonably assume that Socrates stayed entirely aloof from them, that he was unfairly portrayed as contaminated by these Pythagorean ideas by Aristophanes, and that Plato much later invented another Pythagoreanizing Socrates for his own purposes, knowing full well that the real Socrates had scrupulously avoided these ideas? On the other hand, those who give Speeches priority and believe that Aristophanes refers to it include Rostagni 55-56 and de Vogel (supra n.2) 143.	cache/grbs-6311.pdf	txt/grbs-6311.txt