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Considering Carneades as a
Framework for Informal Logic:
A Reply to Walton and Gordon
MARCIN SELINGER
Department of Logic and Methodology of Sciences
University of Wrocław
ul. Koszarowa 3/20
51-149 Wrocław, Poland
marcisel@uni.wroc.pl
MARCIN KOSZOWY
Department of Logic, Informatics and Philosophy of Science
University of Białystok
Plac Uniwersytecki 1
15-420 Białystok, Poland
koszowy@uwb.edu.pl
Abstract: The paper offers a critical
analysis of the research program for
formalizing informal logic proposed
by Douglas Walton and Thomas
Gordon (2015). Since their proposal
is based on employing the Carneades
Argumentation System (CAS), this
paper aims at answering two ques-
tions: what are main benefits of ap-
plying CAS as means for formaliz-
ing informal logic, and what are pos-
sible extensions of Walton and Gor-
don’s research program and modifi-
cations in employing CAS?
Résumé: Cet article propose une
analyse critique du programme de
recherche qui vise à formaliser la
logique non-formelle proposée par
Douglas Walton et Thomas Gordon
(2015). Puisque leur proposition est
fondée sur l'emploi de Carneades
Argumentation System (CAS), cet
article a le but de répondre à deux
questions: quels sont les principaux
avantages de l'application CAS
comme un moyen de formaliser la
logique non-formelle, et quelles sont
des extensions possibles du pro-
gramme de recherche de Walton et
Gordon et des modifications dans
l’usage de CAS ?
Keywords: argument evaluation, argument structure, argument weight, Car-
neades Argumentation System (CAS), conductive argument, informal logic,
premise acceptability, proof standards
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1. Introduction
The aim of this paper is to analyze and develop the idea that has
been put forward by Douglas Walton and Thomas Gordon
(2015)1, who propose to formalize informal logic by means of
the Carneades Argumentation System (CAS). Our paper ad-
dresses two questions: what are main benefits of applying CAS
as means for accomplishing the program of formalizing informal
logic (FIL for short), and what are main directions in which
Walton and Gordon’s proposal can be extended or modified?
FIL is a research program deriving from the discussion on
the relationship between formal and informal logic that took
place in the 1970s. At the early stage of this discussion the op-
position between informal and formal approach to arguments
was strongly emphasized (cf. Johnson and Blair 1980; 1994;
Walton 1989; Johnson 1996; 2009). During the past two decades
the research landscape has changed significantly. Recent devel-
opment of computational models of argument resulted in the
need of grasping some features of natural argumentation by
means of formal tools (e.g., Rahwan and Simari 2009; Yuan et
al. 2011). Thus, informal logic approaches, as Walton’s ideas for
instance (see Reed and Tindale 2010), begun to have a substan-
tial impact on computational models of argument (see Reed
2010). Basing on these links, one of the crucial research objec-
tives in contemporary argumentation theory is to bridge the gap
between formal and informal approaches, what is in line with
the idea of linking informal logic with computer science via ar-
gumentation theory (Johnson 2006, p. 251).
Walton and Gordon claim that CAS is a suitable instru-
ment for accomplishing the FIL program. The label ‘Carneades
Argumentation System’ (or just ‘Carneades’ which was used
primarily) refers both to the software supporting argument eval-
uation, construction and visualization, and to the underlying
formal, computational model (Gordon 2006, 2010). CAS allows
us to construct and reconstruct arguments using a rulebase of
argumentation schemes, visualize them by means of diagrams,
and critically evaluate with support of proof standards
(http://carneades.github.io/Carneades/). Since CAS is still being
developed, there are some differences among definitions and
solutions included in various papers. In order to avoid the need
to refer to various stages of CAS development, in this paper we
will focus on the description presented in (Walton and Gordon
2015).
1 (Walton and Gordon 2015) is an extended version of the paper (Walton and
Gordon 2013), commented by us in (Koszowy and Selinger 2013).
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Our analysis of key elements of Walton and Gordon’s pro-
ject proceeds as follows. We present an overview of the FIL
project (Sect. 2), consider its possible extensions (Sect. 3), and
indicate and discuss some features of CAS that in our view
should be reanalyzed and modified in the future (Sect. 4). Par-
ticularly, we suggest developing or modifying the concept of
argument graphs, the account of audience, the scale of premise
acceptability, the notion of sufficiency, and finally the use of
proof standards as tools for evaluating convergent and conduc-
tive arguments.
2. An overview of the program of formalizing informal logic
In this section we offer an overview of those elements of the FIL
program that are, in our opinion, particularly inspiring for the
future development of informal logic.
It is worth noting at first that the very idea of “formalizing
informal logic” may seem controversial for both some formal
and some informal logicians. On the one hand, for those logi-
cians who claim that logic is distinctively formal and thus the
phrase ‘informal logic’ is a contradiction in terms (see Johnson
1996, p. 10) any project of formalizing informal logic is ex defi-
nitione impossible. On the other hand, those informal logicians
who defend the autonomy of informal logic as a discipline with
its unique subject-matter, aims and methods may claim that the
FIL project could undermine the autonomy of informal logic. In
other words, since the very origins of the Informal Logic Initia-
tive lay in building the contrast between formal and informal
approaches to argumentation, as well as between the formaliza-
ble and non-formalizable aspects of everyday arguments (cf.
Johnson 1996; Blair 2009), some informal logicians could pose
a question of whether it is at all commendable to build bridges
between formal and informal logic. However, this opposition is
recently not as sharp as at an early stage of development of the
Informal Logic Initiative. Currently, informal logicians rather
claim that formal and informal aspects of the study of argumen-
tation have recently come together—also thanks to AI and an
increasing overlap between argumentation theory and computer
science (see Walton 2008, pp. xii-xiii; Blair 2009, pp. 62-63).
According to Walton, the task of formalizing informal logic is
justified mainly by the fact that “standardized forms of argu-
ment that represent common species of arguments encountered
in everyday conversational argumentation need to have a pre-
cise, partly formal structure” (Walton 2008, p. xiii).
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In the pronounced manifesto, Walton and Gordon start
their inquiry by enumerating the most important “requirements
something has to meet to be an informal logic” (Walton and
Gordon 2015, p. 509). According to these requirements (or pos-
tulates), which have been collected from the literature (e.g.,
Johnson and Blair 1994; Johnson 1996), informal logic has to
recognize (1) the linked-convergent distinction, (2) serial and (3)
divergent arguments; apply the so-called RSA triangle, i.e.,
three following postulates of good argument: (4) relevance, (5)
premise acceptability and (6) sufficiency; (7) recognize the im-
portance of conductive (i.e., pro-contra) arguments; (8) be capa-
ble of analyzing real-life arguments; (9) help in argument con-
struction; and finally (10) grasp the notion of audience, what is
an important goal of the study on argumentation from the rhetor-
ical point of view (see Walton and Gordon, 2015, p. 509). The
list collected by Walton and Gordon shows that their approach
does not reduce the project just to some selected aspects of ar-
gumentation, but that the goal is much more comprehensive.
At first glance it seems that some of the listed issues can-
not be included into the project simply because it is extremely
difficult to describe them in a formal way. For example, we may
ask about the scope and limits of the formalization of audiences
behavior (see postulate 10). Since formal description of even
most basic notions raises many serious difficulties, one may
wonder what is the very rationale for such a project. However,
such difficulties do not undermine the possibility of formalizing
main aspects of informal logic. Hence we should not think of
accomplishing the task in terms of a complete success or a com-
plete failure. If such a project is only partially accomplished,
then its results can still be valuable, at least because thanks to
them some computer systems have a chance to become capable
of grasping yet a couple of features of natural language argu-
mentation.
Moreover, Walton and Gordon’s model is in line with the
claim that formal and pragmatic accounts of arguments are
complementary, and not competing. It is also in accordance with
Johnson’s (1996) suggestion that in order to capture arguments
that occur in real-life contexts, argumentation should be con-
ceived as a teleological process. As Johnson states:
(...) standard definitions of argument are typically struc-
tural in character. An argument is seen as a form of dis-
course/reasoning that exhibits a certain structure; viz.,
premises leading to a conclusion. And we have seen that
this approach tends to omit reference to the purpose
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which this structure serves. Most important here is the te-
los of rational persuasion (Johnson 1996, p. 106).
With regard to this crucial postulate of informal logic, one
may observe that Walton and Gordon’s program takes into ac-
count not only the description of the structure of arguments, but
also their goal-driven character. Amongst the goals of argumen-
tation that may successfully be grasped by the proposed model
there are: making arguments relevant and sufficient, and making
the claim acceptable to an audience. Thus, the RSA triangle with
audiences underlines, amongst other features, the teleological
nature of argumentation.
The CAS software supporting real-life debates opens up
the social context of argumentation to informal logic. Thus, the
third advantage of the proposed approach may be noticed—
Walton and Gordon aim at giving a possibly broad characteristic
of social argumentative procedures. Therefore they take into ac-
count not only inferential, i.e., premise-conclusion structures,
but also dialectical and rhetorical aspects of argumentation. The
dialectical approach may be seen in including both pro and con-
tra arguments, as well as undercutting defeaters, and in employ-
ing proof standards in evaluation procedures. The rhetorical ac-
count may in turn be observed in stressing the need of modeling
audiences within the CAS framework.
3. Towards extending the program of formalizing informal
logic
As we pointed out in Section 2, apart from some difficulties of
accomplishing the FIL research program, ten postulates collect-
ed by Walton and Gordon may successfully serve as a coherent
methodological framework for building a formal model of natu-
ral language argumentation. However, in order to reveal some
further theoretical needs, in this paper we propose to enrich the
general idea of FIL by adding two further goals. Namely, we
suggest that informal logic has to be capable of: (11) expressing
the attack relation (Section 3.1.) and (12) applying argument
mining methods (Section 3.2.).
3.1 The attack relation
Our first proposal of extending the 10-postulate research pro-
gram is that a satisfactory formalism should enable us to define
the attack relation. The attack relation allows us to describe log-
ical interrelations among arguments and to discuss the logical
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properties of whole sets of arguments, for example with the help
of tools offered by abstract argumentation theory (Dung 1995).
Thus, the definition of the attack relation constitutes a sort of a
link between informal logic and abstract argumentation theory.
In the case of CAS, this work has been done by van Gijzel and
Prakken (2012), who mapped it to Dung’s Abstract Frameworks
via ASPIC+. Such a connection allows us to introduce another
aspect of the pragmatic context, by virtue of which some proper-
ties of arguments should be analyzed in relation to all other ar-
guments that appear in a discourse. Thus, these properties can be
relativized to some (structured by the attack relation) sets of ar-
guments that are in game, i.e., that are invented, recognized and
used in social (or individual) practice. Such sets could be called
‘domains of discourses’. The question of how attacks are used or
should be used in a dialogue is already an issue of dialectic.
3.2 Argument mining
The second proposal is related to the essential requirement that
informal logic should be capable of analyzing real-life argu-
ments (see the postulate 8 in Sect. 2). In our view, the formal
language of the computational system such as CAS requires a
sort of link to natural language. It can have a form of an auxilia-
ry theory or method serving to extract formally described argu-
ment structures from natural language. When seeking such a
method we may turn to the existing tools for argument mining
(see Lawrence and Reed 2015). For instance, some of those
tools are taken from computational linguistics (see Peldszus and
Stede 2014) or from argumentation scheme theory (see Walton
2011; Walton 2014). Thanks to the diversity of communication
phenomena that constitute the subject-matter of extracting ar-
gument structures by means of argument mining methods, the
scope of the FIL research program can be significantly enriched.
The main reason in support of this claim is that argument min-
ing techniques can indicate interesting ways of formalizing
some argument types, such as for example legal discourse (Sar-
tor et al. 2014), biomedical texts (Green 2014), open online col-
laboration communities (Bex et al. 2014; Schneider 2014), fi-
nancial dialogues (Budzynska, Rocci and Yaskorska, 2014), so-
cial debates (Budzynska et al. 2014), broadcast debates (Medel-
lin et al. 2014) or policy making (Bench Capon et al. 2015). The
need to harmonize formal argumentation structures and compu-
tational tools with case-based natural language argumentation,
which is the key interest of argument mining projects, has been
recently exposed by Walton:
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But what needs to be emphasized is that software for ar-
gument evaluation and argument construction assistance
needs to be used hand-in-hand with the kind of case-
based reasoning of individual texts that is the task of in-
formal logic. The application of computational tools such
as argument maps depends on dealing with an argument
that has been put forward in natural language, such as a
legal argument […] The biggest general problem for the
AI and law field is to fit abstract models of legal argu-
mentation, generally formal logical reasoning structures
of some kind, to natural language argumentation of the
kind found in trials and other legal settings. (Walton
2014, p. 1).
Since approaches to argument mining listed above employ
diverse conceptual frameworks, the selection of the most satis-
factory method should be justified by the particular proposal of
a formalism for informal logic. On the other hand, the FIL re-
search program should not simply ignore important properties of
real-life argumentation revealed by some text mining methods.
4. Towards extending some particular CAS features
In this section, we analyze CAS’s capability to achieve the goal
of the FIL project, and propose some possible future modifica-
tions of particular CAS features. First, we discuss the formal
representations of argumentation structures (Section 4.1.) and of
the audience (Section 4.2) in CAS. We also discuss conductive
arguments and the role of dialectics in Walton and Gordon’s ap-
proach (Section 4.3.). Next, we consider some properties of ar-
gument evaluation in CAS, namely the issue of premise accept-
ability (Section 4.4.) and the issue of argument weights with a
particular emphasis on the distinction between convergent and
conductive reasoning (Section 4.5.). Finally, we take into ac-
count the applicability of proof standards to informal logic (Sec-
tion 4.6.).
4.1 Argument graphs
Argument graphs are defined, as structures of the form , where S is a set of statement nodes, A is a set of argument
nodes, P is a set of premise edges, and C is a set of conclusion
edges (cf. Walton and Gordon, 2015, p. 512). The proposed def-
inition aims at describing a number of key features of argu-
ments. This task is commendable, but it results in a very com-
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plex argument representation. One may here raise an objection
that the proposed structure departs from the everyday, intuitive
understanding of argumentation, according to which conclusions
and (sets of) premises seem to be rather the nodes, and argu-
ments—relations between them, i.e., the edges. This order is re-
versed in CAS. The fact that premises and conclusions are the
edges of the graph may be seen as particularly surprising. It may
be technically justified by the software application, but from the
methodological point of view the question arises whether it is
possible to propose a simpler model of argument representation
that will not lose any crucial structural features of argumentation
which are encoded in argument graphs.
An alternative proposal (see Selinger 2014; 2015) is to
simply represent argumentation structures as sets of triples of
the form
, where P is a non-empty2, finite set of prem-
ises, c is a conclusion, and d is a Boolean value representing the
direction of the premises (it is true if they are pro, and false if
they are con). Such triples are called ‘arguments’ by Gordon and
Walton (2006) and ‘sequents’ by Selinger (2015) (obviously, the
triples can be equipped with the fourth parameter s denoting the
strict/defeasible distinction). Within this model argumentation
structures can be regarded as relations between sets of state-
ments and single statements (and Boolean values). The inferen-
tial order of statements in (convergent and serial) complex ar-
guments, i.e., in the sets consisting of many compound sequents,
is encoded in the form of these sequents-components. Namely, it
is reflected by the support relation, defined in the range of each
argument, i.e., in the set of all the statements being premises or
conclusions of a given argument (see Selinger 2014).
The claim that argument graphs result in a sort of deflation
of argumentation structures can be additionally supported by the
following observation. In order to distinguish argument nodes
from one another, Walton and Gordon assign unique identifica-
tion numbers to them, which is formally correct, but seems to be
a somewhat artificial solution. It also leads to a certain technical
complication, since instead of one argument graph we obtain
many equivalent graphs differing from each other only in the
order of the numbering of nodes. A verification of whether two
very complex graphs are equivalent in this sense can be compu-
tationally a non-trivial challenge. Obviously, a natural solution
here would be to give names to argument nodes basing on the
2 Walton and Gordon allow arguments to have the empty set of premises, but
they do not explain why such a possibility is available in CAS, and what intu-
itions correspond to it.
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information about which statement nodes are connected with
them by premise- and conclusion-edges, as it was proposed by
Walton and Gordon (2006) in a previous version of CAS. But
then the argument nodes, extended to the form
, al-
ready contain all the information that is provided by the rest of
the structure, i.e., by the related statement nodes, and by the
premise- and conclusion-edges connecting both kinds of nodes
(the polarity of premises can be omitted if the considered lan-
guage contains the negation connective; otherwise, Boolean val-
ues representing polarity could be assigned directly to the ele-
ments of P). Thus, instead of dealing only with statements and
relations holding among them, we are compelled to consider the
very same statements and relations, and in addition a new level
of relations which hold between these statements and original
relations.
Since argument graphs are bipartite, the defined structure
does not provide edges between nodes of the same kind, particu-
larly between two argument nodes. Thus, the representation of
the so-called undercutting defeaters (see Walton and Gordon,
2015, p. 524, Figure 7) does not seem to fit the defined form.
Undercutting defeaters are premises that determine some limit
of applicability of an inference under consideration. Thus, they
are used to attack inferences in arguments, and introducing them
is important for the aim of defining the attack relation. In the
famous Pollock’s example: “This object looks red, thus it is red,
unless it is illuminated by the red light” (Pollock 1986) the un-
dercutter is the sentence “This object is illuminated by the red
light”. Walton and Gordon (2015) interpret undercutting defeat-
ers as meta-arguments with the conclusion saying that the ob-
ject-argument is not applicable. In order to maintain this inter-
pretation in the manner presented in Figure 7 (Walton and Gor-
don 2015, p. 524), we should expand the definition of argument
graph by admitting edges between argument nodes. Otherwise
we can only consider two separate argument graphs, namely the
attacked object-argument graph and the attacking meta-
argument graph. Moreover, we must realize that the language of
our theory will contain elements of metalanguage (e.g., the no-
tion of applicability). Thus, the language of our meta-theory, in
which we define evaluation, for instance, will be already a meta-
metalanguage. Let us also mention that in former versions of
CAS different interpretations of undercutting defeaters where
considered (see, e.g., Gordon et al. 2007). An alternative pro-
posal is also considered by Selinger (2015), who extends se-
quents to the form
, where R is a set of linked under-
cutters. (Obviously, R can be empty if there are no such sentenc-
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es involved.) Another interpretation, maybe the most natural one
from the purely logical point of view, would be the recognition
of the word ‘unless’ in Pollock’s example as the classical dis-
junction connective (‘or’) in the conclusion of the simple argu-
ment “This object looks red, thus it is red or (it is) illuminated
by the red light”.
4.2 The characteristics of audience
Although the importance of grasping the notion of audience by
CAS is clear, we would like to consider a slight modification of
Walton and Gordon’s proposal. They define audiences as tuples
. In our view, audiences should be also
linked with proof standards, because the choice of an appropri-
ate standard in given communicative circumstances is socially
determined (by a binding legal system, for instance). Thus, be-
sides assumptions and weights, the third element should be add-
ed in order to grasp the contextual character of audiences, name-
ly a function assigning proof standards to types of dialogue (or
perhaps to types of the sentences of a considered language, i.e.,
according to the content of conclusion). Such a definition would
allow us to explicitly isolate and reveal the whole social context
of argument evaluation in CAS.
Another question is whether this definition captures the
social context adequately. One may disagree with incorporating
into the account of audiences logical properties of arguments,
i.e., those regarding the internal strength of inference, such as
weights and proof standards. This is the question of relativism in
logic: are logical laws relative? Namely, is the relation of infer-
ence relative? Is it socially context-dependent? Fregean and
Husserlian refutation of psychologism in the philosophy of logic
makes us aware of the fact that relativizing logic to the social
context can be refuted in an analogous way. Thus, we are reluc-
tant to replace nineteenth century psychologism by a contempo-
rary sociologism, and we are inclined to see the social context
only in possible differences among agents’ beliefs, which are
represented in audiences by (the set of) assumptions. Agents’
experience, and what follows from these assumptions, obviously
depend on the social context, but changing some assumptions
does not require changing logic. Thus one should not pose an
objection that this way of introducing social context to informal
logic may lead to a kind of relativism.
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4.3 Conductive arguments
Walton and Gordon define conductive arguments as pro-contra
arguments (2015, p. 527). This definition allows us to capture a
dialectical aspect of argumentation in a single diagram, which is
an undoubted benefit. Pro-contra arguments help us also to de-
fine the notion of attack on the conclusion of an attacked argu-
ment (see Selinger 2015). Actually, logic should enable us only
to define the attack relation between arguments, leaving aside
the analysis of an order of their appearance in a dialogue. From
a dialectical point of view, however, arguments in a dialogue are
in a game. They are attacked and defended by a proponent and
an opponent. The order of moves in this game, which is deter-
mined by proof burdens for instance, is important and can affect
the final result—as it is in the case of juridical procedures. This
effect can no longer be valid if there is no game involved, as for
example in an individual decision process of a rational being,
who has to consider pros and cons, and who can simply sum up
and weight them in the end. Such a process is just an object of
interest of logic. It is only quasi-dialectical, because, informally
speaking, the proponent and the opponent is the same entity, so
that burdens of proof cannot be distributed between two differ-
ent parties. Thus, the opponent can be regarded only as a model
representation of the proponent’s doubts and criticism. We find
CAS consistent with this interpretation of dialectical terminolo-
gy, which is widely used in the description of the system. So, in
our opinion, conductive arguments, as they are defined in CAS,
introduce no more of a dialectical account to argumentative
structures than can be adopted by an essentially logical ap-
proach.
At this point, a question arises whether some more com-
plex decision procedures than just pro/contra ones can be mod-
eled in CAS. We mean here in particular a situation such as one
in which we have to accept exactly one of many exclusive prop-
ositions. For example, we are to choose a place to spend our hol-
idays. Thus we have various propositions: “We should go to A”,
“We should go to B”, “We should go to C”, etc., and hence
many conductive arguments for each of them. It would be advis-
able to extend the model in order to guarantee that exactly one
(or at most one) of them will be evaluated as acceptable. Actual-
ly, if we would have only pro arguments involved, the ‘prepon-
derance of the evidence’ proof standard could be applied here.
Although this standard does not reflect the cumulative nature of
convergent reasoning (see Section 4.5), it offers an algorithm to
solve the problem by simply finding out the strongest argument.
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But when pro as well as con premises are in use, it would be
useful to employ a parameter that would allow us to compare the
strengths of arguments assigned to all considered options.
Hence, our proposal is to employ the degrees of acceptability.
We examine this issue more profoundly in what follows.
4.4 Premise acceptability
CAS, in the form considered, does not provide a precise tool
that would allow us to evaluate arguments containing premises
that are not fully acceptable. Such uncertain and merely proba-
ble premises often occur in everyday argumentation (for exam-
ple due to the criticism or skepticism of the audience), and
doubts about them affect the acceptability of conclusions. Ac-
cording to the postulate 8, “informal logic is concerned with an-
alyzing real arguments” (Walton and Gordon, 2015, p. 509).
CAS, however, tells the audience to evaluate premises (as well
as conclusions) using only three values: in, out, undecided. It
follows that if a dubious premise is classified as in, any doubt on
the part of the audience will be actually ignored, i.e., it will not
affect the acceptability of the conclusion. The argument will be
overestimated in this case. Otherwise, if a dubious premise is
considered as undecided, it can entirely block further reasoning,
and the argument will be underestimated.
In order to capture reasoning from uncertain premises, at
least two additional values should be included: (i) between un-
decided and in for not fully acceptable statements; and conse-
quently (ii) between undecided and out for their negations. This
seems to be a minimal requirement, but the more intermediate
values we introduce, the more precisely we can estimate the
amount of our doubts. Since in several cases the acceptability of
a statement can be identified with its probability, the closed in-
terval <0, 1> of rational numbers seems to be a natural choice.
In (Grabmair, Gordon and Walton 2010) such semantics is con-
sidered, but in (Walton and Gordon 2015) it is neither recalled,
nor applied for the aim of formalizing informal logic.
The absence of intermediate values in CAS allows us to
skip an effect of, so to say, “doubts accumulation” while con-
cerning the premises of linked arguments. Since the acceptabil-
ity of a set of statements can be identified intuitively with the
acceptability of their conjunction, it seems reasonable to assume
that, by analogy to probability, the conjunction of uncertain but
to some degree acceptable (independent) statements can be not
acceptable itself (as the probability of the coincidence of many
events can be smaller than ½ even if the probability of each of
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these events taken separately is greater than ½). In this way, the
degrees of acceptability determine sufficiency. But in CAS suf-
ficiency is modeled by proof standards, which do not take into
account such a situation; so if all not fully certain premises of a
single and separate linked argument (i.e., not under attack)
would be considered as in, then (assuming that the argument
node is in) the conclusion will be in, too. Thus, the postulate of
sufficiency of the RSA triangle, as it is modeled in CAS, is not
restrictive enough with respect to the domain of linked argu-
ments with uncertain premises.
On the other hand, when an uncertain premise happens to
follow from other uncertain premises (or if they are equivalent),
then the acceptability of their conjunction can be fallaciously
underestimated if this value would be decreased with respect to
the one of the dependent premises that is in fact needlessly add-
ed. For example, the acceptability of the conjunction of two un-
certain, equivalent statements is the same as the acceptability of
each of them (these two values are assumed to be equal, since
the statements are equivalent). But if two uncertain statements
with equal acceptability are independent, then the acceptability
of their conjunction should be reduced. Thus, the dependence of
uncertain premises impedes the evaluation of arguments. Let us
note that the fallacy that can be committed here is just a kind of
the double counting fallacy. However, otherwise than in the case
of the double counting of convergent arguments, it results in the
underestimation of argument value. Obviously, it is not harmful
for CAS, since the introduction of some “doubled” and needless
premise, which is recognized as in, cannot change the result of
the process of evaluation. In such a way, i.e., by excluding de-
grees of acceptability, CAS allows us to avoid difficulties con-
cerning the independence of premises in linked arguments.
4.5 Argument weights
Walton and Gordon recommend real numbers in the range
<0.0...1.0> to represent relative weights of arguments. However,
this scale does not correspond to conditional probabilities, as
one might think. Thus neither does 0.0 mean that the negation of
an argument conclusion follows from its premises, nor does 0.5
mean that the premises are neutral with respect to the conclu-
sion. Here 0.0 means the neutrality of premises, and 0.5 is only
one of intermediate, “positive” weights. Let us note that using
the probabilistic scale, conductive arguments could be defined in
semantics, since the weights in the range <0.0…0.5) correspond
to con, and the weights in the range (0.5…1.0> to pro arguments
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(the round brackets mean that the corresponding interval is
open, and the angle brackets mean that it is closed).
Despite offering a fairly large number of weight values,
CAS does not allow us to estimate the weights of convergent
arguments. Summing the weights of such arguments and so
strengthening the acceptability of their conclusions seems to be
justified when a definitive proof is not at hand. But Walton and
Gordon warn us against summing the weights of convergent ar-
guments due to some possible dependence between them that
can result in the double counting fallacy (Walton and Gordon,
2015, p. 532). This difficulty is very hard to overcome; howev-
er, the question of the relationship between the converging ar-
guments can probably be slightly simplified by reducing it to the
question of the relationship between the conjunctions of their
premises. It is also noteworthy that an algorithms for summing
the weights of independent arguments (Yanal 1988; Selinger
2014) can be still useful, even in this troublesome case, since
they define an upper bound for the sum of the weights of argu-
ments that are dependent. Leaving aside the details, let us only
mention here the following essential properties of the weight-
summing operation: (i) the sum of weights of two pro-
arguments is greater than the weights of each of its components,
but (ii) if at least one of these components has the maximal
weight, then the whole has the maximal weight too, and (iii) the
function assigning the weight of the convergent argument to the
weights of its components is monotonic in the sense that if any
of the input values is constant and the other one increases, then
the output value increases too.
Instead of dealing with the issue of summing argument
weights, CAS offers us proof standards to find out whether the
conclusion of the whole argument is in, out or undecided. How-
ever, in convergent arguments (without exceptions), once the
conclusion is in, it will remain the same, regardless of how
many convergent components are added. Thus, the final result
does not contain any information about the weight of the whole
argumentation, which can be useful, for instance in order to
compare the effectiveness of different convergent combinations
of arguments. Using the ‘preponderance of the evidence’ proof
standard we can only choose the component with the greatest
weight. The rest of them cannot affect the final result of the
evaluation, so they are in fact useless. It follows that they may
play their role only with respect to some con arguments (and not
on the basis of the ‘preponderance of the evidence’). To sum up,
it seems that the cumulative nature of convergent reasoning is
not reflected by CAS.
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The model of relevance in CAS is under construction, and
in (Walton and Gordon, 2015) it is only sketched very briefly.
Let us note that if we were to take into account the degrees of
acceptability when evaluating probandum, we could describe
the degrees of relevance as follows: the more acceptable a pro-
bandum is, assuming that the premises supporting it are fully
acceptable, the more relevant those premises are.
4.6 Proof standards
The evaluation of conductive arguments that can have conver-
gent components is affected by possible dependencies among
these components. Thus, for example, two weak, mutually de-
pendent, but double counted pro arguments could unfairly pre-
vail over a con one that is stronger than each of the pro ones.
Proof standards constitute a sort of a specific insurance against
this effect. What we can lose by applying these standards is at
first glance the precise information about how much the pros
prevail over the cons (or vice versa). If proof standards can be
linearly ordered with respect to their restrictiveness, then a cer-
tain scale would be available. Actually, Walton and Gordon
(2015, p. 523) point to proof standards as being more or less re-
strictive, but the principle by which one could obtain a complete
hierarchy is not specified. Even if one gives a satisfactory defi-
nition of such a hierarchy, we will still have a rather limited
scale (with the number of degrees equal to the number of proof
standards), while we dispose the real numbers in the range
<0.0…1.0>. Thus, in order to fully exploit this scale, i.e., to map
the weights of the whole convergent components of conductive
arguments and of conductive arguments as well into the set
<0.0…1.0>, some more precise numerical techniques must be
developed, and the problem of arguments dependency must be
faced.
Actually, such precise information about an argument val-
ue, which is to be expressed by the degree of acceptability of its
conclusion, may not always be needed. Decision making, deter-
mined by yes-or-no questions, can serve as an example. Let us
imagine that we wonder whether or not to cross a river. Once we
make a decision, say, on the basis of an argument that is ac-
ceptable with the degree of 75%, we have to accomplish our
task entirely. In other words, we have to cross the whole river,
not as one could calculate, a half (or perhaps 75%) of it. The
sentence in a criminal court action can be only: guilty (in) or not
guilty (out). Some legal systems allow it to be undecided too,
but not—75% or 79% guilty. It is fully justified regarding the
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decision on the penalty (especially the death penalty). On the
other hand, the amount of the penalty in the case of a fine or im-
prisonment could be considered to be relativized to this parame-
ter—say, proportionally. This proposal is quite controversial,
but there are some other domains in which a precise, numerical
information about the degree of argument acceptability seems to
be clearly desired. We mean in particular the dilemmas, trilem-
mas, etc., mentioned in Section 4.3. We also refer to scientific
research, within which methodological criticism requires as pre-
cise and accurate information about reasoning as possible (e.g.,
such information can be suitable to critically analyze results of
the use of our decision procedures, even those related to yes-or-
no questions). Apart from this purely theoretical interest, an ac-
quaintance with the degree of argument acceptability might
simply be useful on such occasions as the forecasting of atmos-
pheric phenomena, risk assessment, etc. So we should neither
neglect nor a fortiori resign from studies of the independence of
arguments and of the evaluation of convergent and conductive
arguments in the probabilistic scale.
The absence of a uniform standard for the evaluation of
pro against con arguments motivates us to raise a question re-
garding the criteria for choosing the most adequate rules for as-
signing proof standards to types of dialogue. An unconstrained
possibility of changing proof standards by simply clicking the
menu bar seems to be too liberal solution. Since Walton and
Gordon emphasize their interest in legal applications and they
indicate the juridical origins of proof standards, this assignment
should be relativized to a particular legal system and extrapolat-
ed in order to cover statements that occur in extra-judicial prac-
tice. But how is one to apply, for instance, an assignment based
on Anglo-American jurisprudence to evaluate Frenchmen’s ar-
guments about their cuisine? Thus, we think that matching CAS
to various types of everyday discourse (as, e.g., those listed by
us in Section 2.2) is one of the most important goals of its future
development. Obviously, the problem of the proof standards ap-
plicability is significant not only in such argumentation areas as
everyday conversation, but also—what we want to emphasize—
in philosophy and in science. Anyway, doubts about assign-
ments of proof standards can occur, and various arguments can
be raised by an audience in this matter. So, our question can be
eventually formulated as follows: which proof standard should
be used to evaluate arguments concerning types of discourse and
the very choice of a proof standard?
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Yet, let us note that the applicability of the proof standards
can be impeded by the introduction of not fully acceptable
premises. Pro and con arguments with relatively low weights,
but with absolutely certain premises, could be stronger than
those that have high weights, but whose premises are uncertain.
Thus, in order to evaluate such pros and cons, an algorithm re-
ducing their weights with respect to the acceptability of premis-
es is needed (see Selinger’s proposal, 2014).
5. Conclusion
Walton and Gordon’s ideas can provoke a further fruitful dis-
cussion about interrelations between informal and formal ap-
proaches to the phenomenon of argumentation, and turn out to
be particularly important in bridging informal logic with compu-
tational models of argument. In this paper we have considered
CAS as a solid foundation for the formalization of informal log-
ic, and we have shown significant research potential of Walton
and Gordon’s proposal, which must not be overlooked or under-
estimated while accomplishing the goal of the FIL project. This
belief, however, is accompanied by our attempt to justify the
need to modify some elements of the proposal. Our most general
remark concerning CAS as a framework for informal logic is
that it complicates the structure of argument, on the one hand,
while it simplifies the evaluation, on the other.
As a result of our considerations we have specified the list
of requirements collected by Walton and Gordon that informal
logic has to meet. Particularly, we think that informal logic has
to recognize the degrees of acceptability of an argument’s prem-
ises and conclusions, and to analyze the problem of dependent
arguments. Moreover, we have proposed to extend the list by
explicitly introducing two further requirements: informal logic
has to be capable of (i) defining the attack relation and (ii) ap-
plying argument mining methods.
Acknowledgements: We would like to thank Douglas Walton
and Thomas Gordon for their helpful remarks and receptivity to
our criticism. We also gratefully acknowledge the support of the
Polish National Science Centre for Marcin Koszowy under grant
2011/03/ B/HS1/04559.
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