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             Vindiciæ veritatis: truth vindicated against calumny. In a briefe answer to Dr. Bastwicks two late books, entituled, Independency not Gods ordinance, with the second part, styled the postscript, &c. / By Henry Burton, one of his quondam-fellow-sufferers.
             Burton, Henry, 1578-1648.
          
           [4], 34, [2] p.
           
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             1645.
          
           
             A reply to "Independency not Gods ordinance" by John Bastwick, published in two parts.
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           Congregationalism -- Early works to 1800.
           Dissenters, Religious -- England -- Early works to 1800.
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           Vindiciae
           veritatis
           :
           TRUTH
           VINDICATED
           
             AGAINST
          
           CALUMNY
           .
           IN
           A
           BRIEFE
           ANSWER
           to
           Dr.
           
             Bastwicks
          
           two
           late
           Books
           ,
           entituled
           ,
           
             Independency
             not
             Gods
             Ordinance
             ,
          
           with
           the
           second
           Part
           ,
           styled
           
             The
             Postscript
             ,
          
           &c.
           
        
         
           
             By
          
           HENRY
           BURTON
           ,
           one
           of
           his
           
             quondam-fellow-sufferers
          
           .
        
         
           LEVIT.
           19.
           17.
           
        
         
           Thou
           shalt
           not
           hate
           thy
           brother
           in
           thy
           heart
           :
           thou
           shalt
           in
           any
           wise
           rebuke
           thy
           neighbour
           ,
           and
           not
           suffer
           sinne
           upon
           him
           .
        
         
           1
           TIM.
           5.
           20.
           
        
         
           
             Them
             that
             sin
             rebuke
             before
             all
             ,
             that
             others
             also
             may
             feare
             .
             And
          
           (
           Tit.
           1.
           13.
           )
           
             Rebuke
             them
             sharply
             ,
             that
             they
             may
             be
             sound
             in
             the
             faith
             .
          
        
         
           ZACH.
           8.
           19.
           
        
         
           Love
           the
           Truth
           and
           Peace
           .
        
         
           
             LONDON
             ,
          
           Printed
           by
           
             M.
             S.
          
           for
           
             Gyles
             Calvert
             ,
          
           and
           are
           to
           be
           sold
           at
           his
           Shop
           at
           the
           West
           end
           of
           
             Pauls
             .
          
           1645.
           
        
      
       
       
       
         
           ❧
           To
           the
           ingenuous
           Reader
           .
        
         
           
             CHRISTIAN
             READER
             ;
          
        
         
           THi●
           Answer
           was
           long
           agoe
           so
           conceived
           and
           formed
           in
           the
           wombe
           ,
           as
           the
           slow
           birth
           may
           seeme
           to
           have
           outgone
           its
           due
           time
           .
           It
           waited
           for
           the
           
             Postscript
             ;
          
           Which
           comming
           forth
           ,
           proved
           such
           a
           strange
           creature
           ,
           as
           some
           friends
           would
           not
           have
           mee
           foul
           my
           fingers
           with
           it
           .
           
             Hezekiah's
          
           word
           to
           his
           people
           was
           ,
           in
           such
           a
           case
           ;
           
             Answer
             him
             not
             .
          
           But
           finding
           ,
           that
           he
           still
           pursued
           me
           with
           his
           incessant
           provocations
           in
           more
           Books
           since
           ,
           I
           thought
           of
           
             Salomons
          
           Counsell
           ,
           
             Answer
             not
             ;
          
           and
           yet
           ,
           
             Answer
             .
          
           
           For
           I
           perceived
           ,
           that
           no
           Answer
           coming
           ,
           a
           tumor
           began
           to
           grow
           ,
           which
           needed
           timely
           lancing
           ,
           to
           prevent
           some
           extreame
           inflamation
           hastening
           to
           a
           head
           ,
           while
           the
           humour
           flowed
           in
           so
           fast
           :
           Therefore
           I
           hastened
           at
           length
           as
           fast
           ,
           as
           before
           I
           was
           slow
           ,
           if
           possible
           to
           recover
           our
           Brother
           .
           So
           as
           if
           I
           be
           quick
           and
           short
           with
           him
           it
           is
           to
           
             saye
             him
             with
             feare
             ,
             plucking
             him
             out
             of
             the
             fine
             .
          
           I
           am
           plaine
           ,
           and
           that
           's
           all
           .
        
         
           Farewell
           .
        
      
    
     
       
       
         
           A
           BRIEFE
           ANSWER
           TO
           
             Dr.
             
             BASTWICKS
          
           two
           late
           Bookes
           ,
           intituled
           ,
           
             Independency
             not
             Gods
             Ordinance
             ,
          
           &c.
           
           First
           and
           second
           part
           ,
           or
           Postscript
           :
           By
           one
           of
           his
           
             quondam-fellow-sufferers
          
           .
        
         
           BRother
           
             Bastwicke
             ,
          
           I
           had
           resolved
           for
           a
           time
           at
           least
           (
           as
           I
           have
           done
           )
           to
           have
           been
           silent
           in
           these
           controversies
           ,
           though
           provoked
           not
           a
           little
           ▪
           But
           now
           your
           two
           Books
           you
           lately
           sent
           me
           as
           also
           your
           late
           triumphing
           at
           
             Westminster
             ,
          
           that
           
             the
             man
             in
             Friday-street
             had
             not
             yet
             answered
             your
             Booke
             ,
             as
             was
             given
             out
          
           provoked
           me
           afresh
           
             in
             arenam
             descendere
             ,
          
           to
           take
           them
           both
           to
           taske
           ,
           and
           so
           
             Vna
             fidelia
             duos
             parietes
             .
          
           And
           if
           the
           perusall
           of
           them
           be
           not
           enough
           in
           lieu
           of
           thankes
           ,
           I
           have
           returned
           you
           a
           compendious
           Answer
           ;
           wherein
           you
           have
           bound
           me
           by
           a
           double
           ingagement
           :
           the
           one
           ,
           for
           the
           Cause
           ;
           the
           other
           ,
           for
           my
           Person
           .
           But
           you
           will
           say
           ,
           you
           have
           not
           named
           me
           in
           either
           of
           your
           two
           Books
           .
           'T
           is
           true
           indeed
           .
           But
           give
           me
           leave
           to
           tell
           you
           ,
           you
           have
           vellicated
           me
           ,
           plucked
           me
           by
           the
           very
           beard
           .
           I
           will
           not
           say
           ,
           as
           
             Joab
          
           
           tooke
           
             Amasa
          
           by
           the
           beard
           ;
           and
           ,
           withall
           
             smote
             him
             in
             the
             fift
             rib
             .
          
           What
           ?
           Use
           a
           Brother
           so
           ?
           And
           a
           
             quondam-fellow-sufferer
          
           too
           ?
           Yea
           ,
           &
           to
           take
           him
           so
           disgracefully
           by
           his
           white
           beard
           too
           ,
           &
           that
           with
           a
           scurrilous
           Epithet
           ,
           calling
           it
           
             *
          
           
             a
             great
             white
             ba●ket-hilted
             beard
             ?
          
           
           
             Parcius
             ista
             .
          
           
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
          
           ,
           (
           as
           said
           the
           old
           Poet
           )
           pittying
           his
           white
           head
           ,
           and
           his
           white
           chin
           .
           And
           the
           wise
           man
           saith
           ,
           
             The
             beauty
             of
             old
             men
             is
             the
             gray
             head
             ,
             yea
             a
             crowne
             of
             glory
             ▪
          
           
           
             being
             found-in
             the
             way
             of
             righteousnesse
             .
          
           I
           remember
           when
           the
           
             G●●●es
          
           by
           force
           entred
           
             Rome-gates
          
           ,
           where
           they
           found
           the
           grave
           Senators
           sitting
           in
           the
           gate
           in
           their
           senatorian
           robes
           ,
           And
           their
           white
           staves
           in
           their
           hands
           ,
           thinking
           thereby
           to
           strike
           some
           reverence
           into
           those
           harbarous
           
             Gaules
             ,
          
           and
           one
           of
           them
           redely
           taking
           one
           of
           the
           Senators
           by
           his
           white
           beard
           ,
           the
           good
           old
           Senator
           ,
           (
           though
           in
           that
           condition
           )
           not
           brooking
           such
           an
           affront
           ,
           struck
           the
           
             Gaul
          
           over
           the
           pate
           with
           his
           white
           rod
           ;
           though
           this
           cost
           him
           ,
           and
           the
           rest
           their
           lives
           ,
           the
           barbarians
           instantly
           falling
           a
           butchering
           of
           them
           .
           But
           for
           all
           your
           provocations
           throughout
           your
           Books
           ,
           Brother
           ,
           you
           shall
           not
           finde
           with
           me
           so
           much
           as
           a
           white
           staffe
           to
           lift
           up
           against
           you
           ,
           though
           you
           charge
           us
           (
           but
           how
           justly
           )
           ▪
           we
           have
           the
           sword
           in
           our
           hands
           .
           Nor
           doe
           I
           purpose
           to
           retort
           ,
           or
           retaliate
           your
           little
           expected
           ,
           and
           lesse
           deserved
           calumnies
           ,
           lest
           I
           should
           therein
           be
           like
           unto
           you
           :
           but
           I
           shall
           answer
           you
           in
           the
           words
           of
           truth
           and
           sobernesse
           ,
           and
           in
           the
           spirit
           of
           meeknesse
           and
           love
           .
        
         
           But
           how
           comes
           it
           to
           passe
           ,
           that
           my
           two
           fellow-sufferers
           ,
           and
           my selfe
           ,
           should
           fall
           at
           this
           odds
           ?
           Was
           it
           by
           any
           divine
           providence
           ominated
           or
           presaged
           ,
           by
           your
           two
           standings
           on
           one
           Pillary
           ,
           and
           mine
           alone
           in
           the
           other
           ,
           that
           wee
           should
           now
           come
           upon
           one
           ▪
           Theatre
           to
           become
           spectacles
           to
           the
           world
           ,
           by
           mutuall
           digladiations
           ,
           as
           if
           the
           one
           Pillary
           should
           contend
           with
           the
           other
           ?
           Or
           did
           the
           distance
           of
           the
           two
           Pillaries
           boad
           any
           such
           distance
           in
           our
           present
           judgements
           ?
           But
           yet
           ,
           O!
           O
           ,
           never
           be
           such
           a
           distance
           in
           our
           affections
           !
           But
           ,
           herein
           at
           least
           ever
           be
           we
           a
           threefold
           coard
           ,
           not
           easily
           broken
           .
           But
           the
           will
           of
           the
           Lord
           be
           done
           ,
           who
           is
           onely
           wise
           ,
           and
           will
           cause
           all
           things
           to
           co-operate
           for
           good
           to
           them
           that
           love
           him
           .
        
         
           But
           Brothers
           ,
           we
           expected
           ,
           that
           (
           according
           to
           your
           own
           words
           ,
           
             pag.
          
           7.
           )
           you
           would
           have
           acted
           the
           part
           of
           a
           Moderator
           between
           us
           .
           But
           instead
           thereof
           we
           find
           you
           a
           Judge
           ,
           and
           that
           a
           severe
           one
           too
           ;
           but
           how
           justly
           ,
           I
           leave
           to
           others
           to
           judge
           .
           For
           in
           your
           promised
           ,
           or
           rather
           menaced
           
             Postscript
             ,
          
           which
           (
           to
           forestall
           your
           Readers
           with
           a
           prejudicate
           opinion
           of
           us
           ;
           and
           old
           piece
           of
           Rhetoricke
           ,
           as
           that
           of
           
             Tertullus
          
           before
           
             Felix
             ,
          
           telling
           him
           of
           
             Paul
             ;
             Wee
             have
             found
             this
             man
          
           
           
             a
             pestilent
             fellow
             ,
             and
             a
             mover
             of
             sedition
             ,
             &c.
          
           which
           he
           was
           not
           able
           to
           prove
           ,
           his
           best
           rhetoricall
           argument
           being
           
             Calumnidre
             audacter
             ,
             aliquid
             haerebit
             ,
          
           Calumniate
           boldly
           ,
           some
           thing
           will
           sticke
           )
           you
           both
           prefix
           ,
           and
           for
           surenesse
           ,
           affix
           to
           your
           Booke
           ;
           you
           fasten
           upon
           us
           uncharitable
           dealing
           ,
           fraud
           and
           jugglings
           of
           many
           of
           our
           Pastors
           and
           Ministers
           ,
           as
           misleaders
           and
           troublers
           of
           Church
           and
           State
           ,
           &c.
           all
           which
           
             *
          
           (
           
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
          
           )
           hard
           and
           harsh
           termes
           ,
           wee
           can
           no
           lesse
           then
           spread
           before
           the
           Lord
           the
           righteous
           Judge
           .
        
         
           I
           now
           come
           to
           your
           first
           Booke
           .
        
         
           And
           first
           for
           those
           two
           Scriptures
           which
           you
           face
           your
           frontispice
           withall
           ,
           I
           desire
           it
           may
           appeare
           to
           all
           men
           in
           the
           conclusion
           ,
           whether
           you
           or
           I
           have
           the
           better
           right
           to
           them
           ,
           2
           
             Cor.
          
           13.
           8.
           and
           1
           
             Thes.
          
           5.
           21.
           
        
         
           
             Pag.
          
           6.
           
           Brother
           ,
           that
           which
           you
           intreat
           of
           us
           ,
           you
           shall
           finde
           of
           your
           Brother
           ;
           onely
           give
           us
           leave
           in
           your
           owne
           words
           to
           intreat
           you
           to
           lay
           aside
           all
           passion
           ,
           and
           all
           vaine-glory
           ,
           and
           bitternesse
           ,
           which
           not
           onely
           this
           your
           Booke
           ,
           but
           your
           threatned
           
             Postscript
          
           breaths
           out
           against
           us
           .
        
         
           
             Pag.
          
           7.
           
           You
           methodize
           and
           modell
           your
           Booke
           into
           two
           Questions
           :
           First
           ,
           Concerning
           the
           Government
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           whether
           it
           be
           
             Presbyterian
             Dependent
             ,
          
           or
           
             Presbyterian
             Independent
             :
          
           Secondly
           ,
           Concerning
           gathering
           of
           Churches
           .
        
         
           Now
           for
           the
           first
           of
           these
           ,
           before
           wee
           come
           to
           your
           Arguments
           ,
           give
           me
           leave
           to
           except
           against
           your
           Termes
           ,
           
             Dependent
          
           and
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           whereupon
           as
           upon
           a
           foundation
           you
           state
           your
           Question
           .
           And
           if
           the
           foundation
           be
           not
           sure
           ,
           the
           superstructure
           cannot
           be
           secure
           .
           Now
           Brother
           ,
           doe
           you
           set
           these
           two
           Termes
           ,
           
             Dependent
             ,
          
           and
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           at
           such
           odds
           ,
           as
           if
           there
           were
           a
           great
           gulfe
           betweene
           them
           ,
           never
           to
           come
           together
           ,
           and
           become
           one
           ?
           You
           hold
           of
           
             Dependent
          
           onely
           :
           we
           hold
           not
           onely
           of
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           but
           
             Dependent
          
           also
           .
           I
           shall
           make
           this
           cleare
           :
           Your
           Church
           
             Dependent
          
           is
           so
           called
           in
           a
           two-fold
           relation
           :
           First
           ,
           Because
           it
           depends
           for
           its
           forme
           of
           Government
           upon
           the
           lawes
           of
           civill
           States
           ,
           and
           so
           (
           as
           the
           
             Cha●●leon
          
           )
           receives
           impressions
           of
           sundry
           formes
           ,
           changeable
           according
           to
           the
           present
           condition
           of
           the
           Civill
           Power
           ,
           whether
           Protestant
           ,
           or
           Papist
           ,
           Christian
           ,
           or
           Antichristian
           (
           as
           our
           Brother
           hath
           set
           
           forth
           )
           so
           as
           by
           this
           meanes
           ,
           Christs
           Church
           and
           Kingdome
           ;
           his
           Spouse
           ,
           that
           
             woman
             clothed
             with
             the
             Sunne
             ,
             and
             having
             on
             her
             head
             ,
          
           
           
             a
             crowne
             of
             twelve
             starres
             ,
             and
             the
             Moone
             under
             her
             feete
             ,
          
           should
           her selfe
           be
           turned
           into
           the
           Moone
           ,
           as
           being
           subject
           to
           continuall
           changes
           .
           Secondly
           ,
           Because
           your
           
             Church
             Dependent
             ,
          
           depends
           necessarily
           upon
           a
           combination
           of
           
             Presbyters
          
           of
           many
           Churches
           ,
           as
           Councels
           ,
           Synods
           ,
           Assemblies
           ,
           Classes
           ,
           without
           whose
           counsell
           (
           say
           you
           )
           nothing
           is
           to
           be
           done
           in
           any
           particular
           Church
           ,
           of
           which
           more
           hereafter
           
        
         
           On
           the
           other
           side
           ;
           The
           Churches
           which
           you
           call
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           are
           also
           
             Dependent
             .
          
           First
           ,
           They
           are
           not
           otherwise
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           then
           first
           ,
           that
           they
           are
           not
           ,
           nor
           ought
           (
           in
           respect
           of
           Doctrine
           ,
           Discipline
           ,
           Worship
           ,
           Church-Government
           )
           to
           depend
           upon
           humane
           Lawes
           ,
           Canons
           ,
           Decrees
           ,
           Customes
           ;
           but
           onely
           upon
           Christ
           and
           his
           Lawes
           ;
           as
           wherein
           they
           assert
           and
           hold
           forth
           Christs
           Kingly
           Office
           and
           Government
           over
           them
           ;
           and
           doe
           affirme
           ,
           that
           to
           set
           up
           humane
           formes
           of
           worship
           and
           Church-Government
           ,
           unto
           which
           the
           consciences
           and
           soules
           of
           Gods
           people
           must
           necessarily
           conforme
           and
           be
           subject
           ,
           is
           a
           dethroning
           of
           the
           Lord
           Jesus
           Christ
           ,
           and
           a
           denying
           him
           to
           be
           the
           onely
           King
           of
           his
           Church
           Secondly
           ,
           
             Independent
          
           in
           this
           respect
           ,
           because
           every
           particular
           visible
           Church
           ,
           rightly
           constituted
           according
           to
           the
           Word
           of
           God
           ,
           depends
           not
           directly
           and
           necessarily
           upon
           any
           other
           Church
           or
           Churches
           ,
           as
           without
           whose
           jurisdiction
           (
           call
           it
           
             Presbyterian
             ,
          
           or
           what
           you
           will
           )
           it
           may
           not
           exercise
           all
           that
           power
           ,
           which
           Christ
           hath
           given
           to
           every
           particular
           Church
           ,
           as
           touching
           all
           the
           Offices
           and
           Ordinances
           thereof
           ,
           and
           that
           in
           as
           ample
           manner
           ,
           as
           if
           there
           were
           besides
           that
           one
           ,
           no
           other
           Churches
           in
           the
           World
           .
        
         
           And
           yet
           secondly
           ,
           This
           Church
           thus
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           is
           also
           
             Dependent
             .
          
           For
           ,
           as
           it
           depends
           absolutely
           upon
           Christ
           ,
           as
           the
           onely
           Head
           of
           this
           Body
           ;
           so
           as
           it
           is
           a
           member-church
           of
           the
           Catholick
           ,
           and
           a
           sister-church
           of
           all
           particular
           Churches
           ,
           with
           which
           it
           makes
           up
           one
           body
           ,
           and
           one
           Spouse
           of
           Christ
           her
           Head
           and
           Husband
           :
           so
           it
           hath
           a
           mutuall
           dependence
           upon
           all
           true
           Churches
           ,
           for
           communion
           ,
           for
           consociation
           ,
           for
           consultation
           ,
           for
           comfort
           ,
           for
           support
           ;
           though
           alwayes
           saving
           and
           retaining
           to
           it selfe
           all
           those
           Church-priviledges
           ,
           which
           by
           Christs
           Charter
           are
           peculiar
           to
           every
           particular
           Church
           ,
           and
           body
           of
           Jesus
           Christ
           .
           And
           in
           case
           this
           particular
           
           Church
           doe
           any
           act
           of
           censure
           upon
           any
           ,
           who
           thereby
           shall
           thinke
           himselfe
           wronged
           ,
           and
           shall
           addresse
           himselfe
           to
           other
           Churches
           ,
           by
           way
           of
           complaint
           ,
           and
           they
           shall
           thereupon
           desire
           of
           that
           church
           an
           account
           of
           their
           proceedings
           therein
           ,
           this
           church
           will
           not
           refuse
           ,
           but
           as
           in
           Christian
           duty
           bound
           ,
           will
           to
           those
           Churches
           render
           a
           reason
           of
           that
           ,
           or
           any
           other
           their
           doings
           ,
           if
           questioned
           ,
           and
           lawfully
           required
           .
           And
           all
           this
           in
           a
           sweet
           and
           loving
           way
           ,
           with
           meeknesse
           and
           feare
           ,
           1
           
             Pet.
          
           3.
           15.
           so
           as
           none
           is
           debarred
           of
           any
           such
           appeale
           .
           Nor
           is
           any
           well
           constituted
           Church
           of
           Christ
           to
           be
           conceived
           so
           brutish
           ,
           or
           so
           conceited
           of
           her selfe
           ,
           as
           to
           thinke
           shee
           may
           not
           erre
           ,
           or
           her selfe
           so
           wise
           ,
           as
           in
           many
           difficult
           cases
           not
           to
           need
           the
           counsell
           of
           others
           ,
           or
           so
           inflexible
           ,
           as
           with
           the
           Stoicks
           ,
           
             Sententiam
             mutare
             nunquam
             ;
             nullius
             rei
             poenitere
             ;
          
           never
           to
           change
           
           their
           minde
           or
           judgement
           ,
           of
           nothing
           to
           repent
           ,
           when
           convinced
           of
           an
           error
           .
           But
           what
           if
           one
           particular
           Church
           will
           not
           ,
           after
           all
           due
           meanes
           used
           ,
           (
           which
           yet
           no
           rationall
           man
           can
           imagine
           will
           ever
           come
           to
           passe
           )
           hearken
           to
           the
           unanimous
           judgement
           and
           counsell
           of
           the
           other
           Churches
           ?
           What
           is
           to
           be
           done
           ?
           Surely
           they
           may
           upon
           just
           cause
           withdraw
           communion
           from
           that
           Church
           ,
           which
           ,
           in
           that
           case
           ,
           is
           the
           highest
           censure
           the
           Churches
           can
           proceed
           
           to
           .
           And
           if
           the
           party
           aggrieved
           complaine
           to
           the
           civill
           Magistrate
           ,
           the
           Church
           being
           called
           is
           accountable
           to
           the
           power
           .
           Thus
           have
           I
           plainely
           ,
           clearely
           ,
           and
           fully
           ,
           as
           I
           conceive
           ,
           stated
           these
           two
           Termes
           
             Dependent
          
           and
           
             Independent
             :
          
           whereby
           is
           sufficiently
           cleared
           to
           the
           view
           of
           all
           unpartiall
           Judges
           ,
           not
           possessed
           with
           prejudice
           ,
           our
           
             Dependent
             Independency
             ,
          
           or
           
             Independent
             Dependency
             ,
          
           from
           your
           manner
           of
           stating
           .
        
         
           And
           for
           your
           
             Simile
             ;
          
           wherein
           you
           propound
           it
           for
           better
           understanding
           
           (
           as
           you
           say
           )
           it
           halteth
           down-right
           of
           all
           foure
           ,
           as
           being
           altogether
           
             Ab-simile
             ,
          
           and
           Heterogeneous
           ,
           of
           another
           nature
           .
           There
           is
           a
           vast
           disproportion
           between
           a
           civill
           Government
           ,
           and
           Ecclesiasticall
           :
           the
           one
           established
           upon
           mans
           lawes
           ,
           the
           other
           on
           Gods
           ;
           the
           one
           various
           ,
           and
           variable
           ,
           according
           to
           severall
           Civill
           States
           ,
           Kingdomes
           ,
           and
           Lawes
           :
           the
           other
           one
           and
           the
           same
           ,
           (
           or
           should
           be
           ,
           if
           right
           )
           in
           all
           the
           Churches
           of
           the
           Saints
           ,
           having
           one
           
           Rule
           ,
           one
           Law
           to
           walke
           by
           ,
           immutable
           :
           And
           ,
           Brother
           ,
           for
           your
           paralleling
           of
           your
           many
           severall
           Congregations
           in
           one
           Citie
           ,
           or
           one
           Division
           ,
           or
           Hundred
           ,
           or
           within
           such
           a
           Circuit
           ,
           with
           a
           great
           
           Corporation
           ,
           as
           of
           
             London
             ,
          
           where
           is
           one
           Lord
           Major
           ,
           and
           Aldermen
           and
           Common
           Councell
           ,
           and
           so
           reducing
           so
           many
           Churches
           into
           one
           Corporation
           ,
           as
           so
           many
           Companies
           making
           upone
           Citie
           :
           I
           suppose
           you
           meane
           not
           that
           one
           Provinciall
           ,
           with
           his
           Diocesans
           ,
           and
           Priests
           under
           them
           ,
           should
           make
           up
           this
           Parallel
           .
           But
           this
           of
           necessitie
           you
           must
           doe
           ,
           if
           you
           will
           have
           all
           the
           Congregations
           in
           their
           severall
           Divisions
           ,
           or
           Weapontacks
           ,
           to
           be
           governed
           by
           their
           severall
           
             Presbyteries
          
           respectively
           .
           Reason
           requires
           ,
           that
           first
           you
           set
           up
           such
           
             Presbyters
          
           over
           every
           one
           of
           your
           Congregations
           ,
           as
           may
           be
           for
           the
           greatest
           part
           of
           them
           good
           ,
           pious
           ,
           learned
           ,
           orthodox
           :
           or
           otherwise
           ,
           if
           the
           greater
           party
           be
           Malignant
           ,
           and
           ill
           affected
           ,
           prophane
           and
           haters
           of
           the
           power
           of
           Godlinesse
           ,
           they
           will
           over-vote
           the
           good
           party
           ;
           and
           so
           what
           a
           hard
           yoake
           will
           you
           put
           upon
           the
           necks
           of
           all
           such
           ,
           as
           be
           truly
           godly
           ,
           when
           they
           shall
           be
           cast
           out
           by
           a
           malignant
           Parochiall
           Congregation
           ?
           and
           going
           to
           complaine
           to
           your
           
             Presbytery
             ,
          
           they
           shall
           finde
           as
           cold
           comfort
           ,
           as
           formerly
           they
           have
           done
           in
           the
           Prelates
           Consistory
           .
           But
           there
           will
           be
           a
           better
           care
           had
           of
           placing
           good
           
             Presbyters
             .
          
           But
           Brother
           ,
           let
           us
           first
           see
           it
           ,
           that
           so
           your
           
             Presbyterian
          
           Government
           may
           shew
           us
           a
           face
           the
           more
           amiable
           ,
           and
           lesse
           formidable
           to
           all
           truly
           godly
           ,
           and
           most
           conscientious
           men
           .
           But
           if
           you
           cannot
           doe
           this
           ,
           whither
           shall
           the
           poore
           soules
           goe
           ,
           which
           live
           under
           a
           prophane
           
             Presbyter
             ,
          
           or
           one
           that
           admits
           all
           sorts
           tag
           rag
           to
           the
           Lords
           Table
           ,
           with
           whom
           godly
           soules
           can
           no
           more
           converse
           ,
           then
           with
           Heathen
           ;
           and
           much
           lesse
           at
           that
           holy
           Ordinance
           ,
           where
           they
           must
           be
           made
           companions
           with
           such
           kinde
           of
           Saints
           ,
           as
           
             Job
          
           would
           not
           set
           with
           the
           dogs
           of
           his
           flocke
           :
           And
           if
           any
           whose
           conscience
           is
           not
           so
           strong
           to
           digest
           such
           hard
           bits
           ,
           as
           others
           of
           the
           common
           multitude
           are
           ,
           who
           either
           see
           no
           difference
           at
           all
           between
           the
           precious
           and
           the
           vile
           ;
           (
           but
           account
           all
           alike
           Saints
           at
           least
           ,
           when
           but
           at
           the
           Sacrament
           )
           or
           have
           such
           Sepulchre-wide
           throats
           ,
           as
           they
           can
           swallow
           a
           Camell
           ,
           when
           a
           tender
           and
           more
           narrow
           conscience
           is
           apt
           to
           be
           choaked
           with
           every
           Gnat
           :
           What
           shall
           this
           poore
           soule
           doe
           ?
           Doth
           he
           rather
           withdraw
           from
           the
           Ordinance
           ,
           then
           he
           can
           endure
           to
           see
           it
           so
           prophaned
           ,
           and
           so
           partake
           with
           the
           prophaners
           ?
           then
           he
           heares
           ,
           A
           Schismaticke
           .
           Now
           if
           you
           have
           not
           a
           good
           
             Presbytery
             ,
          
           where
           shall
           he
           goe
           to
           complaine
           ?
           He
           may
           goe
           and
           appeale
           higher
           ,
           you
           will
           say
           .
           And
           what
           if
           the
           higher
           the
           worse
           ?
           Good
           Brother
           ,
           either
           provide
           
           the
           people
           of
           the
           Land
           an
           honest
           godly
           
             Presbytery
             ,
          
           that
           may
           be
           as
           so
           many
           Angels
           to
           gather
           out
           of
           Christs
           Kingdome
           every
           thing
           that
           offends
           :
           or
           else
           let
           there
           be
           a
           tender
           care
           of
           tender
           consciences
           ,
           and
           some
           provision
           made
           for
           them
           ,
           that
           they
           may
           not
           be
           scandalized
           ,
           by
           being
           forced
           to
           be
           the
           companions
           of
           the
           scandalous
           .
           And
           therefore
           Brother
           ,
           you
           that
           professe
           so
           much
           solicitous
           care
           to
           poore
           bodies
           ,
           let
           some
           drops
           of
           your
           charity
           fall
           upon
           their
           soules
           .
           And
           at
           the
           least
           ,
           and
           last
           extremity
           ,
           call
           in
           that
           
             Postscript
          
           of
           yours
           ,
           and
           suppresse
           it
           in
           the
           Presse
           ,
           that
           it
           may
           never
           see
           the
           Sunne
           ;
           as
           wherein
           you
           proscribe
           all
           those
           ,
           that
           are
           not
           of
           your
           
             Dependent
             Presbytery
             :
          
           for
           you
           tell
           us
           ,
           it
           is
           to
           come
           forth
           a
           fortnight
           hence
           ,
           in
           the
           which
           it
           will
           be
           proved
           ,
           that
           it
           is
           the
           duty
           of
           all
           christian
           Magistrates
           ,
           Parents
           ,
           Masters
           of
           families
           ,
           and
           all
           such
           as
           truly
           feare
           God
           ,
           to
           yeeld
           their
           hand
           for
           the
           suppressing
           of
           heresies
           ,
           and
           all
           novelties
           in
           Religion
           ,
           if
           they
           really
           desire
           the
           glory
           of
           God
           ,
           &c.
           
           And
           what
           you
           meane
           by
           your
           heresies
           and
           novelties
           in
           Religion
           ,
           is
           obvious
           to
           all
           by
           this
           your
           Booke
           already
           come
           forth
           ,
           
             Independency
          
           is
           heresie
           ,
           and
           novelty
           in
           Religion
           ,
           and
           what
           not
           ,
           that
           nought
           is
           ?
           Now
           did
           ever
           proceed
           out
           of
           the
           mouth
           of
           a
           
             quondam-Martyr
          
           ,
           and
           one
           newly
           brought
           out
           of
           a
           balefull
           prison
           ,
           such
           a
           fiery
           breath
           as
           this
           ?
           Oh
           Brother
           ,
           remember
           thy selfe
           ,
           and
           repent
           ;
           and
           let
           the
           world
           know
           ,
           that
           thou
           hast
           made
           a
           better
           use
           of
           afflictions
           ,
           then
           so
           fiercely
           to
           run
           on
           in
           such
           a
           course
           ,
           as
           to
           wreck
           the
           malignity
           of
           a
           prison
           upon
           thy
           best
           friends
           ,
           the
           seed
           of
           whose
           love
           ,
           so
           liberally
           sowne
           upon
           thee
           and
           thine
           ,
           expected
           another-gates
           harvest
           ,
           then
           nettles
           ,
           bryars
           ,
           and
           thornes
           .
        
         
           But
           you
           bring
           the
           Scripture
           for
           you
           .
           Come
           on
           ,
           Brother
           ,
           let
           you
           and
           me
           try
           it
           out
           by
           the
           dint
           of
           this
           sword
           .
           And
           truly
           ,
           I
           shall
           by
           the
           helpe
           of
           my
           God
           make
           no
           long
           worke
           of
           it
           .
           You
           spend
           above
           eleven
           sheets
           ,
           wherein
           you
           have
           woven
           sundry
           long
           threaden
           Arguments
           ,
           to
           measure
           out
           your
           
             Dependent
             Presbytery
             ,
          
           as
           holding
           parallell
           with
           the
           line
           of
           Scripture
           .
           Now
           you
           must
           pardon
           me
           ,
           if
           I
           shall
           assay
           (
           according
           to
           an
           old
           Proverbe
           )
           with
           one
           stroake
           of
           
             Phocions
          
           hatchet
           ,
           to
           cut
           in
           two
           the
           long
           thread
           of
           your
           
             Alcibiadian
          
           fluent
           and
           luxuriant
           Rhetorications
           .
        
         
           For
           answer
           .
           First
           ,
           let
           me
           aske
           you
           a
           Question
           :
           Whether
           those
           many
           Congregations
           you
           so
           call
           ,
           you
           doe
           not
           understand
           to
           be
           so
           many
           distinct
           ,
           and
           particular
           intire
           Church-bodies
           ,
           or
           Churches
           
           respectively
           .
           If
           they
           be
           ,
           tell
           us
           ,
           if
           each
           of
           these
           Churches
           be
           〈◊〉
           its
           prime
           and
           proper
           notion
           an
           intire
           Church
           ,
           without
           or
           before
           it
           be
           united
           in
           such
           a
           
             Presbyterian
          
           Combination
           ,
           and
           Government
           ,
           as
           you
           speake
           of
           .
           And
           if
           so
           ,
           whether
           it
           be
           
             de
             esse
             ,
          
           or
           
             de
             bene
             esse
             ,
          
           of
           the
           being
           ,
           or
           onely
           well-being
           of
           each
           particular
           Church
           ,
           so
           to
           be
           united
           ,
           and
           combined
           into
           a
           Church-collective
           ,
           of
           many
           Churches
           into
           one
           .
           If
           you
           say
           ,
           it
           is
           of
           the
           being
           of
           a
           Church
           ,
           to
           be
           yoaked
           with
           other
           Churches
           ,
           as
           into
           one
           ,
           then
           what
           being
           had
           that
           Church
           in
           
             Abrahams
          
           family
           ,
           seeing
           there
           were
           then
           no
           other
           Churches
           in
           the
           world
           ,
           but
           that
           ?
           And
           if
           that
           were
           extraordinary
           ,
           (
           as
           perhaps
           you
           will
           say
           )
           then
           say
           I
           ,
           when
           Churches
           are
           multiplied
           ,
           and
           combined
           into
           one
           ,
           whether
           is
           this
           Church
           collective
           
             Dependent
             ,
          
           or
           
             Independent
             ?
          
           If
           
             Dependent
             ,
          
           then
           not
           an
           entire
           Church
           ,
           but
           subordinate
           unto
           ,
           or
           depending
           upon
           some
           greater
           Assembly
           .
           But
           come
           we
           to
           the
           highest
           of
           all
           ,
           a
           generall
           Counsell
           of
           all
           the
           Churches
           in
           the
           world
           :
           is
           this
           now
           ,
           a
           Church
           
             Dependent
             ,
          
           or
           
             Independent
             ?
          
           If
           
             Independent
             ,
          
           then
           there
           may
           be
           a
           Church
           
             Independent
          
           in
           the
           world
           ;
           and
           so
           the
           first
           particular
           Church
           in
           the
           world
           ,
           was
           no
           lesse
           an
           
             Independent
          
           Church
           ,
           in
           reference
           to
           other
           Churches
           .
           And
           if
           all
           Churches
           in
           one
           Oecumenicall
           Councell
           ,
           as
           one
           Church
           ,
           be
           
             Dependent
             ,
          
           then
           whereupon
           
             Dependent
             ?
          
           Or
           is
           it
           a
           
             Dependent
          
           on
           it selfe
           ?
           That
           were
           blasphemy
           to
           say
           it
           .
           Whereon
           then
           ?
           Surely
           on
           the
           Scripture
           or
           nothing
           .
           All
           Churches
           then
           are
           
             Dependent
          
           upon
           the
           Scripture
           necessarily
           :
           not
           so
           necessarily
           one
           Church
           upon
           another
           ,
           whether
           particular
           or
           generall
           .
           
             Ergo
             ,
          
           all
           particular
           Churches
           being
           not
           necessarily
           dependent
           one
           upon
           another
           ,
           nor
           one
           upon
           many
           ,
           but
           absolutely
           dependent
           upon
           the
           Scripture
           for
           their
           ultimate
           or
           finall
           resolutions
           ,
           are
           no
           lesse
           
             Independent
          
           upon
           other
           Churches
           ;
           because
           all
           the
           Churches
           in
           the
           world
           put
           together
           ,
           cannot
           of
           themselves
           give
           forth
           an
           infallible
           Oracle
           ;
           as
           to
           say
           ,
           this
           wee
           command
           to
           be
           beleeved
           and
           observed
           .
           This
           is
           Antichrists
           voyce
           ,
           
             Volumus
             &
             jubenius
             .
          
           The
           Church
           ,
           or
           Churches
           may
           shew
           
           their
           reasons
           from
           Scripture
           ,
           and
           labour
           to
           perswade
           ,
           but
           cannot
           binde
           them
           upon
           faith
           or
           conscience
           ;
           this
           the
           Holy
           Ghost
           and
           Scripture
           can
           onely
           doe
           .
        
         
           But
           I
           come
           briefly
           to
           your
           Arguments
           ,
           whereby
           you
           would
           prove
           your
           Classicall
           
             Presbyterian
          
           Government
           ,
           and
           so
           upward
           .
           The
           patterne
           hereof
           you
           take
           from
           the
           Christian
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             .
          
           
           Hereof
           many
           arguments
           ,
           or
           rather
           words
           ,
           and
           tantologies
           you
           multiply
           ,
           and
           toyle
           your selfe
           and
           vex
           your
           Reader
           withall
           ,
           which
           you
           might
           have
           reduced
           to
           one
           .
           It
           is
           in
           summe
           ,
           this
           :
        
         
           In
           
             Jerusalem
          
           were
           many
           Christian
           Congregations
           ,
           and
           all
           these
           made
           but
           one
           Church
           ,
           and
           so
           were
           governed
           by
           one
           
             Presbytery
             .
          
        
         
           But
           that
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             ,
          
           being
           the
           prime
           Apostolicke
           Church
           ,
           is
           a
           patterne
           for
           all
           succeeding
           Churches
           :
        
         
           
             Ergo
             ,
          
           all
           Church-government
           ought
           to
           be
           regulated
           by
           that
           ,
           and
           consequently
           by
           a
           
             Presbytery
          
           over
           many
           Congregations
           .
        
         
           For
           as
           for
           your
           indefinite
           enumeration
           of
           those
           multitudes
           baptized
           by
           
             John
             Baptist
             ,
          
           and
           by
           Christs
           Disciples
           ,
           we
           take
           no
           notice
           of
           them
           ,
           unlesse
           formed
           into
           a
           Church
           ,
           or
           Churches
           :
           but
           following
           the
           expresse
           Scripture
           ,
           the
           first
           formed
           Church
           wee
           finde
           in
           
             Act.
          
           2.
           which
           though
           consisting
           of
           five
           thousand
           ,
           yet
           it
           was
           one
           intire
           particular
           Church
           ,
           and
           not
           Churches
           ;
           and
           they
           continued
           daily
           
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
          
           ,
           with
           one
           accord
           in
           one
           place
           together
           ,
           (
           
             ver.
          
           2.
           )
           and
           in
           the
           Temple
           ,
           (
           
             ver.
          
           44.
           46.
           
           )
           growing
           from
           a
           hundred
           and
           twenty
           (
           
             Act.
          
           1.
           15.
           
           )
           to
           three
           thousand
           more
           ,
           (
           
             Chap.
          
           2.
           41.
           
           )
           and
           then
           in
           all
           five
           thousand
           (
           
             Chap.
          
           4.
           4.
           
           )
           and
           all
           these
           but
           one
           Church
           ,
           which
           assembled
           together
           to
           heare
           the
           word
           in
           the
           Temple
           ;
           and
           though
           they
           wanted
           a
           convenient
           place
           so
           spacious
           ,
           as
           wherein
           to
           breake
           bread
           ,
           or
           receive
           the
           Lords
           Supper
           all
           together
           ,
           so
           as
           they
           were
           constrained
           to
           sever
           themselves
           into
           divers
           companies
           ,
           in
           severall
           private
           houses
           to
           communicate
           ,
           yet
           this
           severing
           was
           not
           a
           dividing
           of
           the
           Church
           into
           so
           many
           distinct
           formall
           Churches
           ,
           or
           Church-bodies
           ,
           being
           but
           so
           many
           branches
           of
           one
           and
           the
           same
           particular
           Church
           ;
           which
           though
           you
           call
           so
           many
           Congregations
           ,
           yet
           properly
           so
           many
           Churches
           they
           were
           not
           .
           And
           therefore
           you
           never
           read
           ,
           The
           Churches
           at
           or
           in
           
             Jerusalem
             ,
          
           but
           ,
           The
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             .
          
           And
           this
           no
           Nationall
           Church
           neither
           ,
           witnesse
           those
           Churches
           in
           
             Judea
             ,
          
           Gal.
           1.
           22.
           
        
         
           Whereupon
           I
           answer
           to
           your
           Argument
           ;
           and
           first
           to
           your
           Proposition
           .
           I
           deny
           that
           those
           Congregations
           you
           name
           ,
           are
           so
           many
           Churches
           ,
           properly
           so
           called
           ,
           having
           their
           distinct
           Officers
           and
           members
           ,
           united
           into
           one
           Church-body
           respectively
           .
           This
           I
           put
           you
           to
           prove
           .
           And
           without
           proving
           it
           ,
           your
           11
           or
           12
           shee●…
           spent
           about
           this
           Argument
           prove
           to
           be
           meere
           wast
           paper
           .
           And
           for
           your
           Assumption
           ,
           that
           the
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             ,
          
           as
           being
           a
           prime
           Apostolicke
           
           Church
           ,
           is
           therefore
           a
           patterne
           for
           all
           succeeding
           Churches
           ,
           and
           therefore
           for
           a
           Classicall
           
             Presbytery
          
           over
           many
           Churches
           ▪
           you
           must
           first
           prove
           your
           Proposition
           ,
           as
           before
           ,
           that
           there
           were
           many
           Churches
           in
           
             Jerusalem
          
           constituted
           in
           their
           distinct
           formes
           ,
           and
           bodies
           .
           Secondly
           ,
           it
           being
           no
           more
           ,
           then
           one
           entire
           particular
           Church
           (
           and
           not
           any
           Diocesan
           ,
           or
           Provinciall
           Church
           ,
           or
           the
           
             Presbytery
          
           thereof
           Classicall
           ,
           (
           as
           you
           would
           beare
           us
           in
           hand
           )
           it
           is
           a
           patterne
           for
           all
           particular
           Churches
           in
           succeeding
           ages
           ;
           and
           yet
           (
           by
           your
           favour
           )
           not
           so
           perfect
           a
           patterne
           ,
           as
           no
           Apostolicke
           Church
           besides
           it
           should
           also
           come
           in
           ,
           to
           make
           up
           the
           patterne
           compleat
           .
           For
           we
           are
           necessarily
           to
           take
           all
           the
           Churches
           in
           the
           New
           Testament
           together
           ,
           to
           make
           up
           one
           entire
           &
           perfect
           Church
           patterne
           .
           For
           in
           the
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             ,
          
           we
           finde
           election
           of
           Officers
           ,
           but
           we
           finde
           not
           expressed
           that
           part
           of
           Discipline
           ;
           for
           casting
           out
           of
           corrupt
           members
           ,
           as
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           
             Corinth
             ,
          
           and
           so
           in
           the
           rest
           .
           For
           the
           Churches
           were
           not
           brought
           forth
           to
           full
           perfection
           in
           one
           day
           .
           Their
           very
           constitution
           had
           a
           graduall
           growth
           .
           The
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
          
           had
           not
           at
           first
           Deacons
           ,
           till
           there
           was
           a
           necessitie
           ;
           and
           the
           largenesse
           of
           the
           Church
           required
           seven
           Deacons
           ;
           which
           is
           no
           patterne
           for
           every
           Church
           to
           have
           seven
           Deacons
           .
           The
           summe
           is
           ,
           to
           make
           up
           a
           compleat
           patterne
           ,
           not
           onely
           the
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             ,
          
           but
           that
           of
           
             Corinth
             ,
          
           of
           
             Ephesus
             ,
          
           those
           of
           
             Gal●tia
             ,
          
           that
           of
           
             Philippi
             ,
          
           and
           the
           rest
           ;
           are
           to
           be
           conferred
           together
           ,
           that
           each
           may
           cast
           in
           its
           shot
           to
           make
           up
           the
           full
           reckoning
           ,
           that
           so
           what
           is
           not
           expressed
           in
           one
           ,
           may
           be
           supplied
           by
           the
           rest
           ,
           to
           make
           one
           entire
           platforme
           .
           For
           the
           Scripture
           consists
           of
           many
           Books
           ,
           as
           so
           many
           members
           in
           one
           body
           ;
           one
           member
           cannot
           say
           to
           another
           ,
           
             *
          
           
             I
             have
             no
             need
             of
             thee
             .
          
        
         
           Againe
           ,
           the
           Church
           at
           
             Jerusalem
             ,
          
           if
           it
           must
           be
           a
           patterne
           for
           all
           other
           Churches
           ,
           then
           in
           this
           ,
           that
           all
           other
           Churches
           must
           be
           subject
           to
           some
           one
           Church
           ,
           because
           (
           
             Act.
          
           15.
           )
           things
           in
           question
           were
           there
           debated
           ,
           and
           determined
           ,
           and
           sent
           to
           other
           Churches
           to
           be
           observed
           .
           But
           for
           as
           much
           as
           that
           Church
           at
           that
           time
           in
           those
           things
           was
           infallibly
           guided
           by
           the
           Holy
           Ghost
           ,
           wherewith
           the
           Apostles
           there
           were
           inspired
           ,
           in
           which
           respect
           their
           resolutions
           were
           with
           Authoritie
           ,
           
             It
             pleased
             the
             Holy
             Ghost
             and
             us
             ,
          
           (
           that
           which
           no
           particular
           Church
           since
           the
           Apostles
           could
           ever
           say
           )
           it
           followeth
           that
           the
           Church
           then
           at
           
             Jerusalem
          
           remaines
           not
           in
           all
           things
           a
           
           patterne
           for
           other
           Churches
           ;
           for
           a
           patterne
           must
           be
           in
           all
           things
           imitable
           ,
           and
           perfect
           .
        
         
           Lastly
           ,
           for
           Appeales
           ,
           so
           much
           agitated
           ,
           and
           pressed
           ,
           I
           have
           said
           enough
           before
           ,
           and
           elsewhere
           (
           as
           in
           my
           Vindication
           )
           to
           vindicate
           
           the
           right
           use
           of
           that
           in
           point
           of
           Church
           matters
           .
           And
           so
           I
           passe
           briefly
           from
           your
           first
           Question
           to
           your
           second
           ;
           which
           is
           concerning
           the
           manner
           of
           gathering
           of
           Churches
           ,
           and
           admitting
           members
           and
           Officers
           :
           
             Viz
             :
          
        
         
           Whether
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           may
           ,
           out
           of
           already
           congregated
           
           Assemblies
           of
           believers
           ,
           select
           and
           choose
           the
           most
           principall
           of
           them
           into
           a
           Church-fellowship
           peculiar
           unto
           themselves
           ,
           and
           admit
           of
           none
           into
           their
           societie
           ,
           but
           such
           as
           shall
           enter
           in
           by
           a
           private
           covenant
           ,
           and
           are
           allowed
           of
           by
           the
           consent
           and
           approbation
           of
           all
           the
           Congregation
           .
        
         
           This
           is
           your
           generall
           stating
           of
           your
           Question
           ;
           and
           out
           of
           the
           wombe
           thereof
           ,
           there
           doth
           issue
           a
           numerous
           brood
           ,
           no
           lesse
           then
           six
           
             Queries
             ,
          
           or
           if
           you
           will
           (
           to
           usurpe
           your
           owne
           usuall
           expression
           )
           so
           many
           sucking
           Questions
           ,
           hanging
           at
           the
           dugs
           of
           their
           damme
           ,
           your
           generall
           Question
           .
        
         
           For
           answer
           to
           all
           in
           their
           order
           :
           But
           before
           I
           answer
           ,
           let
           mee
           
           premise
           thus
           much
           :
           Brother
           ,
           I
           well
           see
           (
           and
           that
           without
           spectacles
           )
           that
           among
           all
           those
           
             Independents
          
           whom
           you
           so
           familiarly
           hurle
           stones
           at
           ,
           and
           cast
           up
           dust
           ,
           yea
           durt
           in
           their
           faces
           ,
           I
           am
           not
           the
           least
           object
           in
           your
           eye
           ,
           as
           by
           many
           palpable
           passages
           in
           your
           Booke
           doth
           appeare
           .
           And
           therefore
           I
           shall
           crave
           leave
           ,
           that
           I
           may
           have
           the
           favour
           to
           represent
           and
           personate
           all
           those
           my
           Brethren
           the
           Ministers
           ,
           whom
           Giantlike
           you
           revile
           and
           challenge
           ,
           and
           warre
           against
           under
           the
           name
           of
           
             Independents
             ,
          
           as
           taking
           this
           take
           upon
           my selfe
           alone
           ,
           in
           answering
           this
           your
           Question
           about
           gathering
           of
           Churches
           .
        
         
           First
           then
           to
           your
           generall
           stating
           of
           the
           Question
           .
           You
           say
           ,
           it
           concernes
           the
           manner
           of
           gathering
           .
           Do
           you
           imply
           here
           the
           lawfulnesse
           of
           the
           matter
           of
           gathering
           ,
           by
           questioning
           onely
           the
           manner
           ?
           Your
           words
           may
           seeme
           to
           import
           so
           much
           .
           But
           I
           will
           not
           quarrell
           a
           word
           .
           I
           come
           to
           your
           Question
           ,
           
             viz.
          
           Whether
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           &c.
           
           Surely
           if
           any
           ,
           then
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           may
           gather
           Churches
           :
           and
           that
           for
           two
           reasons
           ;
           first
           ,
           because
           by
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           &
           the
           Ministry
           thereof
           ,
           Churches
           are
           gathered
           to
           Christ
           .
           
           Secondly
           ,
           because
           we
           read
           ,
           that
           the
           Apostles
           ▪
           and
           other
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           have
           by
           their
           Ministry
           gathered
           Churches
           .
        
         
           Therefore
           no
           question
           ,
           but
           if
           any
           ,
           then
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           may
           gather
           Churches
           to
           Christ
           .
        
         
           I
           ,
           but
           out
           of
           already
           congregated
           Assemblies
           of
           Believers
           ,
           to
           select
           and
           choose
           the
           most
           principall
           of
           them
           .
           Indeed
           this
           is
           something
           to
           purpose
           .
           But
           tell
           me
           ,
           Brother
           ▪
           who
           is
           it
           ▪
           that
           doth
           this
           ?
           You
           apply
           it
           to
           us
           all
           ,
           and
           to
           me
           in
           particular
           .
           But
           I
           deny
           that
           I
           so
           doe
           ,
           and
           I
           dare
           say
           the
           like
           for
           others
           .
           And
           can
           you
           prove
           all
           those
           Parishes
           ,
           out
           of
           which
           Churches
           are
           so
           gathered
           ,
           as
           you
           say
           ,
           to
           be
           Assemblies
           of
           believers
           ?
           But
           they
           all
           professe
           to
           be
           Christians
           .
           True
           ,
           so
           doe
           all
           Papists
           .
           
             Ergo
             ,
          
           are
           all
           Popish
           Parishes
           ,
           Assemblies
           of
           Believers
           ?
           So
           as
           if
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           should
           by
           their
           preaching
           convert
           sundry
           Papists
           of
           severall
           Popish
           Parishes
           to
           become
           a
           Church
           of
           Christ
           ,
           should
           they
           gather
           such
           a
           Church
           out
           of
           so
           many
           Assemblies
           of
           believers
           ?
        
         
           But
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             wee
             gather
             Churches
             out
             of
             Assemblies
             of
             believing
             Protestants
             .
          
           Why
           Brother
           ,
           doe
           you
           not
           know
           this
           to
           be
           a
           time
           of
           Reformation
           ?
           And
           have
           we
           not
           all
           taken
           the
           solemne
           Covenant
           to
           reform
           our selves
           and
           others
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           word
           of
           God
           ?
           And
           to
           endeavour
           to
           our
           power
           ,
           to
           extirpate
           and
           roote
           out
           all
           Popery
           ,
           Prelacy
           ,
           Idolatry
           and
           Superstition
           out
           of
           this
           Kingdome
           ?
           And
           the
           time
           of
           this
           first
           gathering
           ,
           was
           it
           not
           then
           ,
           when
           the
           old
           service
           and
           ceremonies
           were
           in
           use
           ?
           And
           who
           hath
           gathered
           these
           Churches
           ?
           Wee
           .
           Who
           are
           we
           that
           you
           should
           thus
           charge
           us
           ?
           As
           
             Peter
          
           and
           
             John
          
           answered
           ,
           
             Why
             looke
             yee
             so
             on
             us
             ?
          
           So
           ,
           why
           doe
           yee
           impute
           that
           to
           us
           ,
           which
           is
           onely
           to
           be
           attributed
           to
           the
           Gospel
           of
           the
           grace
           of
           God
           ,
           whereby
           our
           very
           Protestants
           are
           wonne
           from
           their
           old
           superstitions
           ,
           and
           will-worship
           ,
           and
           from
           under
           the
           yoake
           of
           humane
           formes
           in
           the
           matters
           of
           Christs
           Kingdome
           ?
           So
           as
           when
           they
           heare
           ,
           Christ
           is
           the
           onely
           King
           of
           his
           Kingdome
           ,
           the
           onely
           Law-giver
           of
           his
           Church
           ,
           and
           his
           Word
           the
           onely
           law
           and
           rule
           of
           all
           Church-government
           ,
           and
           all
           this
           demonstrated
           in
           the
           Word
           of
           God
           ,
           which
           they
           have
           taken
           a
           solemne
           Covenant
           in
           all
           things
           to
           follow
           :
           doe
           you
           reproach
           us
           ,
           for
           being
           a
           people
           who
           are
           ready
           to
           obey
           Christ
           ,
           so
           soone
           as
           wee
           heare
           of
           
           him
           ,
           who
           alone
           is
           to
           be
           heard
           in
           all
           things
           ,
           whatsoever
           he
           shall
           say
           unto
           us
           ?
        
         
         
           And
           for
           Churches
           ,
           doe
           you
           ,
           Brother
           ,
           limit
           Churches
           to
           Parishes
           ?
           What
           if
           you
           finde
           so
           many
           hundred
           Parishes
           in
           
             England
             ,
          
           whose
           Inhabitants
           both
           Ministers
           and
           people
           are
           all
           Malignants
           ,
           or
           popishly-affected
           ?
           Will
           you
           have
           those
           Parishes
           to
           be
           so
           many
           Churches
           ,
           and
           those
           popish
           Malignants
           ,
           so
           many
           believers
           ?
           Were
           not
           this
           to
           set
           up
           
             Ecclesiam
             malignantium
             ,
          
           or
           Churches
           malignant
           ,
           which
           are
           no
           way
           militant
           ,
           but
           against
           the
           power
           of
           Religion
           ,
           and
           the
           peace
           of
           the
           civill
           State
           ?
           Or
           if
           there
           be
           found
           some
           one
           or
           two
           in
           each
           of
           those
           Parishes
           ,
           that
           have
           the
           love
           of
           Christ
           in
           them
           ,
           and
           are
           truly
           godly
           ,
           and
           whose
           soules
           are
           grieved
           to
           communicate
           with
           
             Sodome
             :
          
           Will
           you
           not
           allow
           God
           to
           send
           an
           Angel
           ,
           his
           Messenger
           ,
           with
           a
           word
           to
           call
           them
           forth
           ?
           And
           doe
           you
           not
           know
           ,
           that
           the
           ancient
           Church
           of
           the
           
             Jewes
          
           was
           then
           a
           Church
           ,
           when
           the
           Apostles
           
           by
           their
           preaching
           gathered
           a
           Church
           out
           of
           it
           ?
           A
           Christian
           Church
           out
           of
           the
           
             Jewes
          
           Synagogue
           ?
        
         
           
             I
             ,
          
           say
           you
           ,
           
             but
             we
             gather
             Christian
             Churches
             out
             of
             Christian
             Churches
             .
          
           Surely
           then
           it
           is
           Gods
           word
           that
           calleth
           Christians
           to
           come
           into
           a
           more
           reformed
           Church-way
           ,
           out
           of
           wayes
           more
           corrupt
           and
           lesse
           reformed
           .
           Nor
           doe
           wee
           separate
           from
           the
           Churches
           as
           Christian
           ,
           as
           you
           call
           them
           ,
           but
           from
           their
           corruptions
           ,
           *
           
             separating
          
           
           
             the
             precious
             from
             the
             vile
             ,
             as
             from
             something
             Antichristian
             .
          
        
         
           But
           you
           will
           say
           ,
           Now
           are
           the
           Parishes
           and
           Churches
           purged
           ,
           no
           Service-book
           now
           ,
           no
           Hierarchy
           ,
           no
           such
           thing
           ,
           and
           yet
           wee
           select
           and
           choose
           the
           most
           principall
           into
           a
           Church-fellowship
           peculiar
           unto
           our selves
           .
           To
           which
           I
           answer
           :
           Though
           the
           Service-book
           ,
           Hierarchy
           ,
           
             &c.
          
           be
           taken
           away
           ,
           yet
           the
           Parishes
           are
           not
           so
           purged
           of
           them
           ,
           but
           that
           most
           mens
           hearts
           are
           still
           hankering
           after
           that
           Egyptian-service
           and
           Task-masters
           .
           Again
           ,
           all
           those
           that
           professe
           to
           be
           come
           off
           from
           those
           things
           ,
           yet
           are
           not
           resolved
           what
           Religion
           to
           take
           to
           ,
           but
           are
           ready
           to
           take
           up
           (
           as
           themselves
           say
           ,
           and
           do
           )
           what
           Religion
           men
           will
           set
           up
           over
           them
           ,
           not
           looking
           to
           what
           the
           Scripture
           prescribes
           and
           commands
           ;
           so
           as
           it
           remains
           ,
           that
           those
           who
           embrace
           the
           Word
           ,
           and
           preferre
           Christs
           Decrees
           before
           mans
           ,
           are
           those
           principall
           men
           ,
           whom
           not
           we
           ,
           but
           the
           Word
           of
           Christ
           doth
           call
           forth
           ,
           select
           and
           choose
           voluntarily
           to
           joyn
           in
           Church-fellowship
           ;
           and
           this
           not
           so
           peculiar
           to
           our selves
           ,
           but
           that
           when
           a
           right
           Reformation
           is
           set
           up
           in
           the
           severall
           places
           where
           they
           dwell
           ,
           they
           may
           enjoy
           the
           pure
           Ordinances
           there
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           shewed
           in
           my
           
             Vindication
             .
          
           
           And
           if
           you
           examine
           who
           they
           be
           that
           have
           joyned
           themselves
           unto
           the
           Lord
           ,
           either
           of
           this
           parish
           ,
           or
           of
           other
           ,
           you
           shall
           find
           
           them
           to
           be
           for
           their
           outward
           estate
           ,
           (
           in
           comparison
           of
           others
           )
           none
           of
           those
           principall
           men
           you
           speak
           of
           .
        
         
           But
           say
           you
           ,
           
             wee
             admit
             of
             none
             into
             our
             society
             ,
             but
             such
             as
             shall
             enter
             in
             by
             a
             private
             Covenant
             .
          
           Now
           the
           very
           name
           of
           Covenant
           is
           become
           a
           bug-bear
           to
           many
           .
           But
           it
           is
           mightily
           mistaken
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           shewed
           in
           my
           
             Vindication
             :
          
           For
           it
           is
           nothing
           else
           ,
           but
           a
           declaration
           of
           a
           free
           assent
           ,
           and
           voluntary
           agreement
           to
           walk
           in
           the
           wayes
           of
           Christ
           with
           the
           Church
           ,
           whereof
           they
           are
           members
           ,
           and
           to
           perform
           all
           service
           of
           love
           one
           to
           another
           ,
           submitting
           themselves
           to
           the
           Order
           and
           Ordinance
           of
           Christ
           ,
           in
           that
           Church
           respectively
           .
           So
           that
           it
           is
           not
           the
           name
           of
           Covenant
           that
           is
           so
           terrible
           ,
           but
           the
           Order
           of
           Church-communion
           ;
           and
           this
           to
           those
           only
           ,
           that
           having
           used
           to
           walk
           without
           a
           yoak
           (
           as
           the
           Scripture
           calls
           sons
           of
           
             Belial
          
           )
           love
           not
           to
           come
           under
           the
           yoak
           of
           Christ
           ,
           then
           which
           to
           a
           willing
           bearer
           nothing
           is
           more
           easie
           and
           sweet
           .
        
         
           But
           lastly
           ,
           you
           say
           ,
           
             they
             must
             be
             allowed
             of
             by
             the
             consent
             and
             approbation
             of
             all
             the
             Congregation
             .
          
           And
           (
           I
           pray
           )
           what
           harm
           in
           that
           ?
           Nay
           ,
           doth
           it
           not
           stand
           with
           very
           good
           reason
           ,
           that
           they
           who
           are
           to
           walk
           together
           ,
           should
           first
           be
           agreed
           together
           ?
           As
           
             Amos
             3.
             3.
             Can
             two
             walk
             together
             ,
             except
             they
             be
             agreed
             ?
          
           If
           therefore
           any
           one
           of
           the
           Congregation
           can
           object
           any
           thing
           ,
           as
           a
           just
           cause
           of
           non-admittance
           of
           a
           member
           ,
           he
           ought
           to
           shew
           it
           ,
           not
           only
           for
           his
           own
           peace
           ,
           but
           the
           peace
           of
           the
           Church
           .
           Therefore
           ,
           to
           object
           such
           things
           as
           these
           ,
           doth
           it
           argue
           a
           spirit
           favouring
           of
           such
           a
           holy
           humility
           ,
           as
           becomes
           those
           who
           affect
           the
           society
           of
           Saints
           ?
           And
           when
           the
           whole
           church
           gives
           approbation
           in
           this
           kind
           ,
           it
           is
           both
           to
           the
           church
           and
           the
           member
           admitted
           ,
           a
           comfort
           ,
           and
           withall
           ,
           a
           discharge
           of
           their
           duty
           in
           a
           provident
           care
           for
           preventing
           inconveniences
           and
           scandals
           ;
           
           seeing
           it
           is
           easier
           for
           a
           guest
           to
           be
           kept
           out
           ,
           then
           to
           be
           cast
           out
           .
           Thus
           much
           of
           your
           Question
           in
           generall
           ;
           which
           because
           I
           have
           met
           with
           it
           in
           the
           severall
           branches
           ,
           I
           shall
           need
           to
           say
           the
           lesse
           to
           those
           Queries
           which
           you
           derive
           from
           it
           .
           And
           in
           truth
           they
           are
           rather
           captions
           then
           Queries
           ;
           and
           the
           first
           is
           answered
           in
           my
           former
           stating
           of
           the
           Question
           .
           For
           the
           second
           ,
           to
           know
           those
           well
           ,
           that
           are
           to
           be
           admitted
           ,
           
             Abundans
             ca●tela
             non
             nocet
             :
          
           In
           things
           weighty
           ,
           we
           cannot
           be
           too
           wary
           ;
           nor
           do
           we
           so
           much
           look
           at
           circumstances
           in
           conversion
           ,
           
           as
           the
           substance
           .
           The
           third
           ,
           for
           the
           consent
           of
           the
           Congregation
           ,
           it
           is
           answered
           before
           :
           So
           also
           the
           fourth
           ,
           about
           the
           Covenant
           .
           The
           fifth
           ,
           for
           the
           power
           of
           the
           keys
           ,
           wee
           tie
           it
           not
           to
           womens
           girdles
           .
           The
           sixth
           ,
           and
           last
           ,
           I
           answer
           ,
           that
           those
           Churches
           ,
           which
           are
           for
           matter
           and
           form
           ,
           true
           Churches
           ,
           and
           are
           governed
           according
           to
           Christs
           Word
           ,
           do
           set
           up
           Christ
           as
           King
           upon
           his
           Throne
           .
           And
           for
           such
           as
           are
           otherwise
           ,
           let
           them
           consider
           ,
           whether
           they
           do
           as
           they
           ought
           ,
           set
           up
           Christ
           as
           King
           upon
           his
           Throne
           .
        
         
           You
           proceed
           ,
           
             I
             have
          
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             specified
             the
             things
             without
             any
             spirit
          
           
           
             of
             bitternesse
             .
          
           In
           deed
           ,
           this
           your
           first
           book
           (
           as
           we
           finde
           by
           tracing
           your
           steps
           in
           other
           Tracts
           )
           is
           a
           summary
           collection
           of
           what
           they
           have
           gone
           before
           you
           in
           ,
           whose
           thread
           hath
           led
           you
           all
           the
           way
           through
           this
           maze
           :
           but
           when
           you
           come
           (
           as
           in
           your
           Postscript
           )
           to
           minister
           your
           own
           
             Dosis
             ,
          
           and
           to
           show
           your self
           in
           your
           own
           element
           ,
           there
           wee
           finde
           the
           main
           ingredient
           to
           be
           the
           very
           gall
           of
           bitternesse
           ,
           which
           yet
           your
           first
           book
           is
           not
           altogether
           free
           of
           .
        
         
           
             Pag.
          
           101.
           you
           say
           ,
           
             The
             Apostles
             ,
             and
             other
             Ministers
             of
             the
             Gospell
             were
             to
             receive
             all
             such
             as
             believed
             ,
             and
             were
             baptized
             ,
             and
             that
             upon
             the
             profession
             of
             their
             faith
             and
             repentance
             ,
             without
             any
             further
             testimony
             of
             others
             ,
             unlesse
             they
             had
             been
             formerly
             known
             to
             be
             open
             enemies
             ,
             and
             then
             they
             were
             justly
             to
             be
             suspected
             ,
             till
             they
             had
             given
             publique
             evidence
             by
             witnesse
             to
             the
             Apostles
             and
             Ministers
             of
             their
             true
             conversion
             ,
             as
             concerning
          
           Paul
           ,
           
             Acts
          
           9.
           26
           ,
           27.
           
        
         
           Now
           here
           I
           observe
           :
        
         
           1.
           
           A
           notable
           contradiction
           to
           what
           you
           say
           ,
           
             pag.
          
           115.
           
           As
           Gods
           command
           to
           all
           Ministers
           was
           ,
           that
           they
           should
           admit
           all
           such
           into
           the
           Church
           ,
           as
           believed
           and
           were
           baptized
           ,
           upon
           their
           desiring
           it
           ,
           without
           any
           confession
           ,
           either
           private
           or
           publique
           .
           Here
           I
           leave
           you
           to
           reconcile
           your
           own
           contradiction
           .
           
             Vpon
             their
             profession
             ,
             and
             without
             any
             confession
             .
          
        
         
           2.
           
           I
           answer
           ,
           that
           in
           these
           dayes
           of
           professed
           ,
           and
           covenanted-for
           Reformation
           ,
           there
           is
           required
           the
           profession
           or
           confession
           of
           one
           speciall
           point
           of
           faith
           ▪
           (
           which
           in
           words
           ;
           none
           dare
           ,
           but
           in
           practice
           most
           do
           deny
           )
           touching
           Christs
           Kingly
           office
           ,
           formerly
           suppressed
           by
           
             Antichristian
          
           tyrannie
           ,
           but
           now
           breaking
           forth
           from
           under
           the
           cloud
           in
           its
           native
           light
           ,
           concerning
           his
           absolute
           ,
           sole
           soveraignty
           over
           our
           consciences
           and
           Churches
           ,
           without
           dependence
           upon
           humane
           Ordinances
           ,
           or
           Nationall
           Lawes
           to
           prescribe
           such
           forms
           of
           
           Church-government
           ,
           as
           are
           most
           serviceable
           to
           the
           politicall
           ●nd●
           of
           severall
           States
           ;
           which
           point
           of
           faith
           is
           (
           though
           not
           alwayes
           explicitly
           ,
           yet
           )
           implicitly
           confessed
           by
           all
           those
           ,
           which
           ●ender
           themselves
           to
           be
           admitted
           into
           such
           Churches
           ,
           as
           are
           of
           a
           constitution
           most
           agreeable
           to
           the
           law
           and
           rule
           of
           Christ
           .
           And
           withall
           ,
           an
           implicit
           profession
           at
           least
           of
           their
           repentance
           is
           included
           ,
           as
           having
           formerly
           lived
           under
           an
           Antichristian
           government
           ,
           and
           inventions
           of
           will-worship
           ,
           all
           which
           is
           implicitly
           professed
           and
           repented
           of
           ,
           by
           their
           very
           entrance
           into
           Church-fellowship
           ;
           and
           so
           much
           the
           more
           is
           repentance
           herein
           needfull
           ,
           because
           many
           ,
           yea
           most
           of
           such
           Conformists
           ,
           if
           not
           all
           ,
           have
           had
           their
           hands
           ,
           lesse
           or
           more
           ,
           either
           by
           acting
           ,
           or
           assenting
           ,
           or
           by
           silence
           and
           connivence
           in
           the
           persecution
           of
           those
           godly
           Ministers
           and
           people
           ,
           which
           stood
           out
           against
           that
           Antichristian
           usurpation
           over
           their
           consciences
           ,
           refusing
           conformity
           to
           their
           Canons
           .
           So
           as
           in
           this
           case
           ,
           you
           confesse
           ,
           that
           our
           people
           (
           formerly
           Conformists
           ,
           and
           now
           ,
           for
           the
           greater
           part
           ,
           but
           newly
           crope
           out
           of
           the
           shell
           of
           their
           bondage
           ,
           being
           brought
           off
           from
           their
           old
           ceremoniall
           service
           ,
           and
           this
           more
           by
           humane
           authority
           in
           generall
           so
           ordering
           ,
           then
           of
           conscience
           )
           ought
           not
           only
           to
           approve
           themselves
           by
           the
           profession
           of
           their
           faith
           ,
           and
           repentance
           ,
           but
           to
           have
           the
           testimony
           of
           others
           also
           ,
           as
           having
           been
           formerly
           known
           to
           be
           either
           prest
           and
           sworn
           vassals
           ,
           or
           voluntiers
           in
           the
           Prelaticall
           
             Militia
             ,
          
           which
           what
           is
           it
           else
           ,
           but
           a
           continuall
           war
           against
           the
           true
           Church
           and
           Kingdome
           of
           Jesus
           Christ
           ?
        
         
           But
           you
           adde
           (
           
             pag.
          
           102.
           )
           
             that
             Commission
             was
             delivered
             to
             the
             Apostles
             and
             Ministers
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             as
             whose
             place
             only
             it
             was
             by
             the
             Keyes
             to
             open
             and
             shut
             the
             doors
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             so
             to
             admit
             ,
             or
             refuse
             ,
             as
             they
             found
             men
             fitted
             or
             qualified
             ,
             to
             be
             made
             members
             ;
          
           and
           this
           you
           labour
           to
           prove
           by
           the
           practice
           of
           
             John
             Baptist
             .
          
        
         
           Now
           ,
           as
           for
           
             John
             Baptist
          
           (
           about
           whose
           gathering
           you
           have
           so
           bestirred
           your
           selfbefore
           ,
           and
           to
           as
           little
           purpose
           )
           you
           may
           observe
           ,
           that
           those
           believers
           in
           Christ
           then
           to
           come
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           Papists
           Doctrine
           ,
           were
           not
           formed
           into
           a
           Christian
           Church
           ,
           or
           Churches
           ,
           as
           after
           Christs
           resurrection
           the
           believers
           were
           .
           And
           when
           you
           come
           to
           visit
           those
           Christian
           Churches
           once
           constituted
           in
           their
           Gospel-form
           by
           the
           Apostles
           ,
           you
           shall
           finde
           ,
           that
           the
           power
           of
           admitting
           or
           rejecting
           ,
           or
           casting
           out
           of
           members
           ,
           was
           not
           in
           the
           Apostles
           or
           Ministers
           alone
           ,
           but
           in
           the
           Churches
           .
           For
           
           
           this
           ,
           read
           1
           
             Cor.
          
           5.
           where
           the
           whole
           Church
           of
           the
           Saints
           in
           
             Corinth
             ,
          
           to
           whom
           
             Paul
          
           wrote
           ,
           were
           to
           cast
           out
           the
           incestuous
           person
           ;
           as
           also
           afterward
           upon
           his
           repentance
           ,
           to
           re-admit
           him
           ,
           2
           
             Cor.
          
           2.
           6
           ,
           7.
           
           This
           one
           instance
           is
           a
           sufficient
           president
           for
           all
           Churches
           .
        
         
           But
           you
           alledge
           that
           of
           
             Cornelius
          
           sending
           to
           
             Joppa
          
           for
           
             Peter
             ,
             he
          
           
           
             sent
             not
          
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             to
             the
             Church
             of
             Corinth
             ;
          
           true
           ,
           and
           what
           then
           ?
           
             Ergo
             ,
          
           none
           but
           the
           Minister
           of
           the
           Gospel
           hath
           power
           to
           admit
           members
           .
           It
           is
           one
           thing
           to
           preach
           ,
           and
           instrumentally
           to
           convert
           souls
           ,
           which
           chiefly
           pertains
           to
           those
           that
           are
           called
           thereunto
           :
           but
           in
           the
           case
           of
           Church-government
           ,
           of
           admitting
           ▪
           or
           casting
           out
           ,
           it
           is
           otherwise
           .
           And
           here
           let
           
             Peter
          
           himself
           (
           whose
           words
           you
           alledge
           )
           resolve
           us
           ;
           Who
           ,
           when
           the
           Holy
           Ghost
           so
           wonderfully
           fell
           on
           all
           them
           that
           heard
           the
           Word
           ,
           said
           ,
           
             Can
             any
             man
             forbid
             water
             ,
             that
          
           
           
             these
             men
             should
             not
             be
             baptized
             ,
          
           &c.
           
           Which
           words
           imply
           ,
           that
           ifany
           exceptions
           could
           have
           ben
           made
           ,
           it
           was
           in
           those
           
             Jewes
          
           present
           ,
           to
           give
           forth
           their
           allegations
           ,
           why
           those
           believing
           
             Gentiles
          
           should
           not
           be
           admitted
           to
           become
           one
           Church
           with
           the
           believing
           
             Jewes
             .
          
           So
           as
           your
           observations
           thereupon
           fall
           to
           the
           ground
           ;
           as
           that
           ,
           First
           ,
           
             Peter
             was
             sent
             to
             ,
          
           and
           not
           the
           Church
           ;
           and
           ,
           secondly
           ,
           
             Peter
          
           commanded
           them
           to
           be
           baptized
           :
           Again
           ,
           this
           example
           was
           extraordinary
           in
           all
           the
           circumstances
           of
           it
           ;
           and
           when
           you
           have
           said
           all
           ,
           you
           can
           conclude
           nothing
           .
           Your
           instance
           of
           the
           Eunuch
           ,
           
             Acts
          
           8.
           8.
           of
           
             Lydia
             ,
             Acts
          
           16.
           as
           many
           other
           ,
           are
           meer
           extravagants
           .
           We
           speak
           of
           Churches
           constituted
           ,
           not
           of
           single
           converts
           ,
           here
           and
           there
           one
           ,
           not
           yet
           joynted
           into
           a
           particular
           Church-body
           .
        
         
           I
           passe
           by
           your
           impertinent
           declamatious
           against
           different
           opinions
           
           in
           the
           same
           house
           .
           Do
           you
           reconcile
           them
           ;
           for
           Christ
           himself
           foretold
           of
           them
           ,
           as
           wee
           shall
           tell
           you
           when
           wee
           come
           to
           your
           
             Postscript
             ;
          
           which
           when
           I
           mention
           here
           ,
           doth
           not
           your
           minde
           misgive
           you
           ?
           But
           of
           this
           in
           due
           place
           .
        
         
           And
           where
           you
           say
           ,
           
             all
             that
             believe
             ,
             and
             are
             baptized
             ,
             are
             by
             Gods
             command
             to
             be
             admitted
             ,
             desiring
             it
             ,
             without
             any
             confession
             ,
             or
             Covenant
             :
          
           But
           what
           if
           they
           do
           not
           believe
           aright
           ?
           What
           if
           they
           not
           only
           not
           believe
           ,
           but
           deny
           and
           disclaime
           Christs
           Kingly
           Prerogative
           ?
           And
           so
           ,
           what
           if
           they
           stiffly
           maintain
           a
           most
           damnable
           and
           destructive
           herefie
           ,
           which
           overthroweth
           a
           main
           principall
           and
           fundamentall
           of
           faith
           ?
           If
           such
           a
           one
           ,
           as
           Dr.
           
             Bastwick
          
           with
           all
           his
           ●air
           flourishes
           of
           holinesse
           ,
           should
           desire
           to
           be
           admitted
           into
           Church-fellowship
           ,
           
           being
           known
           to
           be
           an
           adversary
           to
           Christs
           Kingly
           government
           over
           his
           Churches
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           Gospel
           :
           might
           not
           the
           Doctors
           own
           words
           satisfie
           ,
           in
           case
           of
           refusall
           (
           
             pag
          
           102.
           )
           as
           having
           been
           formerly
           known
           for
           an
           open
           enemy
           and
           persecutor
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           and
           so
           justly
           to
           be
           suspected
           ,
           till
           publique
           evidence
           by
           witnesse
           given
           ?
           Although
           it
           cannot
           be
           imagined
           that
           the
           ba●e
           desiring
           of
           admittance
           into
           Church-fellowship
           could
           stand
           with
           the
           deniall
           ,
           but
           necessarily
           implies
           a
           confession
           of
           Christs
           Kingly
           office
           in
           its
           highest
           degree
           .
        
         
           
             Pag.
          
           116.
           
           You
           tell
           us
           ,
           
             that
             our
             gathering
             of
             Churches
             hath
             no
             example
             in
             Scripture
             ,
             and
             as
             for
             Christs
             Disciples
             ,
             they
             were
             all
             sent
             to
             gather
             in
             the
             lost
             sheep
             of
             the
             house
             of
          
           Israel
           ,
           
             they
             went
             not
             to
             gather
             in
             converted
             amongst
             converted
             men
             ,
          
           &c.
           
           Now
           wee
           cannot
           have
           a
           more
           pregnant
           and
           more
           warrantable
           example
           in
           all
           Scripture
           then
           this
           ,
           which
           you
           here
           alledge
           against
           us
           .
           Christs
           Disciples
           gathered
           Christian
           Churches
           out
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           the
           
             Jews
             ;
          
           nor
           can
           you
           deny
           ,
           but
           the
           
             Jews
          
           were
           a
           Church
           ,
           when
           the
           Disciples
           gathered
           churches
           out
           of
           it
           .
           Those
           Churches
           in
           
             Judea
             (
             Gal.
          
           1.
           22.
           
           )
           were
           gathered
           out
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           the
           
             Jewes
             ;
          
           and
           that
           Church
           of
           the
           
             Jewes
          
           generally
           believed
           that
           the
           Messias
           ,
           or
           Christ
           ,
           was
           to
           come
           .
           And
           if
           they
           were
           a
           Church
           when
           many
           being
           converted
           ,
           were
           gathered
           out
           of
           it
           ,
           then
           much
           more
           Churches
           may
           be
           gathered
           out
           of
           Nations
           or
           Kingdomes
           of
           the
           world
           ,
           though
           for
           their
           generall
           profession
           of
           Christianity
           ,
           every
           such
           Nation
           or
           Kingdome
           be
           respectively
           called
           a
           church
           ,
           though
           the
           new
           Testament
           knowes
           no
           such
           church
           ,
           and
           then
           not
           of
           divine
           constitution
           ,
           as
           that
           of
           the
           
             Jews
          
           was
           ,
           even
           when
           churches
           Christian
           were
           gathered
           out
           of
           it
           .
           And
           brother
           ,
           prove
           unto
           us
           ,
           that
           such
           as
           you
           call
           
             a
             Nationall
             Church
             ,
          
           is
           a
           church
           of
           divine
           institution
           ;
           shew
           us
           an
           example
           of
           a
           
             Nationall
             Church
          
           in
           all
           the
           new
           Testament
           ,
           otherwise
           you
           do
           but
           weave
           the
           Spiders
           web
           .
        
         
           But
           
             wee
          
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             gather
             converted
             men
             from
             among
             converted
             men
             ,
             and
             so
             pick
             out
             of
             others
             folds
             and
             flocks
             the
             best
             and
             fattest
             sheep
             .
          
           This
           you
           do
           familiarly
           cast
           in
           our
           dish
           ,
           and
           yet
           it
           is
           never
           the
           fatter
           .
           Now
           in
           this
           wee
           may
           justly
           demand
           of
           you
           ,
           to
           prove
           ,
           that
           those
           whom
           you
           call
           
             converted
             men
             ,
          
           from
           among
           whom
           wee
           gather
           churches
           ,
           be
           indeed
           so
           converted
           as
           they
           should
           be
           ,
           when
           as
           yet
           they
           come
           not
           up
           close
           to
           the
           rule
           of
           Reformation
           ,
           Gods
           Word
           ,
           
           as
           thereby
           to
           endeavour
           the
           setting
           up
           of
           Christ
           ,
           without
           waiting
           on
           men
           ,
           as
           without
           whom
           Gods
           Word
           is
           not
           a
           sufficient
           rule
           ,
           and
           as
           on
           whom
           wee
           must
           necessarily
           depend
           for
           the
           form
           and
           law
           of
           Reformation
           :
           And
           yet
           wee
           deny
           not
           but
           many
           such
           may
           be
           godly
           ,
           though
           otherwise
           they
           are
           not
           as
           yet
           throughly
           convinced
           of
           this
           kingly
           government
           of
           Christ
           ,
           which
           we
           endeavour
           after
           ;
           nay
           ,
           let
           me
           go
           a
           little
           higher
           ;
           for
           as
           much
           as
           this
           is
           an
           undeniable
           ,
           yea
           ,
           and
           prime
           principle
           in
           Divinity
           ,
           that
           the
           Scripture
           is
           the
           only
           rule
           of
           faith
           ,
           and
           of
           worship
           ,
           and
           Church-government
           ,
           and
           this
           rule
           is
           no
           Monopoly
           to
           one
           man
           ,
           but
           that
           all
           and
           every
           man
           hath
           a
           power
           and
           priviledge
           to
           repair
           to
           this
           Law
           and
           Testimony
           ,
           to
           do
           all
           things
           according
           to
           this
           Word
           :
           And
           seeing
           wee
           have
           all
           bound
           our selves
           by
           solemn
           Covenant
           to
           reform
           our selves
           ,
           and
           those
           under
           our
           charge
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           Word
           of
           God
           ;
           yea
           ,
           and
           every
           one
           to
           go
           before
           other
           in
           this
           Reformation
           :
           tell
           mee
           now
           ,
           brother
           ,
           were
           it
           not
           a
           matter
           worth
           the
           while
           ,
           for
           our
           reverend
           and
           learned
           Assembly
           ,
           seriously
           to
           take
           it
           into
           debate
           ,
           whether
           the
           generall
           tying
           up
           of
           men
           ,
           to
           wait
           necessarily
           on
           the
           Synod
           for
           its
           finall
           resolution
           about
           Church-government
           ,
           be
           not
           an
           usurpation
           upon
           our
           Christian
           liberty
           ,
           and
           a
           diminution
           ,
           at
           least
           of
           the
           authority
           and
           sufficiency
           of
           Scripture
           ,
           and
           so
           consequently
           be
           not
           a
           trenching
           upon
           a
           fundamentall
           heresie
           ;
           as
           also
           an
           inhibition
           ,
           restraining
           every
           man
           in
           his
           place
           ,
           Ministers
           ,
           Masters
           ,
           
             &c.
          
           from
           setting
           upon
           the
           work
           of
           Reformation
           ,
           and
           so
           necessitating
           a
           violation
           of
           our
           Covenant
           ,
           or
           a
           dangerous
           retarding
           of
           the
           work
           ,
           bringing
           in
           a
           sleepy
           carelesnesse
           upon
           mens
           spirits
           ,
           to
           inquire
           at
           Gods
           Oracle
           ,
           and
           so
           preparing
           a
           way
           for
           blind
           obedience
           ;
           I
           leave
           to
           the
           consideration
           of
           the
           wisest
           .
        
         
           But
           in
           the
           interim
           ,
           to
           return
           to
           your
           
             Converts
             ;
          
           Do
           you
           hold
           all
           them
           to
           be
           converts
           ,
           from
           among
           whom
           churches
           are
           gathered
           ?
           Do
           you
           not
           allow
           of
           a
           difference
           to
           be
           put
           ?
           Are
           there
           not
           a
           number
           of
           both
           ignorant
           and
           scandalous
           ,
           that
           are
           not
           fit
           to
           come
           to
           the
           Lords
           Table
           ?
           See
           the
           
             Directory
             :
          
           Or
           do
           you
           take
           the
           greatest
           number
           in
           
             England
          
           to
           be
           godly
           ,
           and
           truly
           converted
           ?
           Or
           are
           there
           not
           (
           trow
           you
           )
           many
           Parishes
           in
           
             England
             ,
          
           where
           ,
           perhaps
           but
           a
           few
           true
           converts
           are
           to
           be
           found
           ?
           And
           how
           few
           (
           in
           comparison
           )
           truly
           godly
           and
           faithfull
           Ministers
           are
           to
           be
           found
           for
           every
           Parish
           ,
           under
           who●e
           Pastorall
           charge
           ,
           two
           or
           three
           sheep
           
           may
           safely
           and
           comfortably
           feed
           among
           so
           many
           Goats
           ,
           yea
           ,
           perhaps
           ,
           Wolves
           ?
           Or
           do
           you
           make
           every
           parish
           to
           be
           a
           Church
           ?
           You
           may
           do
           well
           herein
           to
           deal
           plainly
           with
           us
           ,
           whether
           you
           would
           have
           so
           many
           inhabitants
           as
           are
           in
           every
           Parish
           ,
           to
           be
           so
           many
           communicants
           .
           For
           so
           it
           seems
           you
           would
           have
           it
           :
           For
           (
           
             pag.
          
           117.
           )
           you
           say
           ,
           
             in
             the
             Churches
             of
          
           Corinth
           ,
           Galatia
           ,
           Colosse
           ,
           
             were
             many
             that
             walked
             disorderly
             ,
             taught
             false
             doctrine
             and
             heresies
             ,
             and
             made
             Schismes
             ;
             yet
             the
             Apostles
             did
             not
             bid
             the
             Christians
             to
             separate
             themselves
             from
             the
             communion
             and
             assemblies
             of
             the
             Saints
             ,
             and
             from
             the
             Ordinances
             ,
             for
             these
             mens
             causes
             ,
          
           &c.
           
           But
           you
           may
           know
           ,
           those
           churches
           ,
           though
           in
           part
           accidentally
           corrupt
           ,
           yet
           were
           essentially
           ,
           and
           in
           their
           originall
           constitution
           pure
           and
           holy
           churches
           ;
           and
           so
           were
           never
           your
           Parochiall
           churches
           ,
           they
           never
           had
           a
           right
           divine
           constitution
           ,
           but
           meerly
           humane
           and
           politicall
           .
           And
           therefore
           all
           your
           argumentation
           
             a
             dispari
             ,
          
           falls
           to
           ground
           ,
           and
           beats
           it self
           into
           a
           meer
           spume
           .
        
         
           But
           (
           
             pag.
          
           118.
           )
           you
           plead
           ,
           
             such
             Ministers
             and
             Churches
             to
             be
             true
             ,
             where
             the
             truth
             of
             Christ
             is
             preached
             ,
             received
             and
             professed
             .
          
           If
           you
           mean
           the
           whole
           truth
           of
           Christ
           ,
           it
           is
           well
           .
           But
           do
           not
           you
           know
           ,
           that
           
           there
           are
           three
           speciall
           visible
           marks
           of
           a
           true
           visible
           Church
           ,
           The
           Gospel
           purely
           preached
           ,
           the
           Sacraments
           duly
           administred
           ,
           and
           Discipline
           rightly
           practised
           ?
           all
           which
           marks
           together
           ,
           the
           Church
           of
           
             England
          
           (
           for
           ought
           I
           know
           )
           is
           yet
           to
           seek
           .
        
         
           For
           (
           to
           speak
           nothing
           here
           of
           the
           materialls
           of
           a
           true
           particular
           visible
           Church
           :
           as
           visible
           Saints
           ;
           nor
           of
           the
           form
           of
           it
           ,
           so
           many
           members
           united
           into
           one
           Church-body
           and
           fellowship
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           which
           you
           can
           handly
           shew
           us
           in
           any
           of
           your
           Parochiall
           Congregations
           )
           I
           will
           only
           ask
           you
           ,
           What
           particular
           visible
           Church
           you
           are
           a
           member
           of
           (
           you
           may
           choose
           what
           Parish
           you
           please
           in
           
             England
          
           )
           :
           Next
           ,
           I
           ask
           you
           ,
           What
           Discipline
           you
           have
           in
           that
           your
           church
           ;
           and
           whether
           a
           man
           complaining
           of
           you
           to
           your
           Congregation
           ,
           or
           to
           your
           Minister
           ,
           for
           wrongs
           done
           by
           you
           ,
           and
           for
           your
           scandalous
           walking
           ,
           he
           shall
           find
           so
           much
           Discipline
           there
           as
           to
           convent
           you
           before
           them
           ,
           and
           justly
           charging
           you
           for
           walking
           scandalously
           ,
           to
           the
           great
           offence
           and
           shame
           of
           the
           very
           name
           of
           Christian
           Religion
           ,
           you
           shall
           thereupon
           be
           brought
           under
           Ecclesiasticall
           censure
           ,
           so
           as
           to
           have
           the
           scandall
           removed
           ,
           and
           the
           offence
           satisfied
           ?
           Good
           now
           tell
           me
           ,
           what
           church
           either
           Parochiall
           ,
           or
           Classicall
           ,
           I
           should
           go
           unto
           ?
           For
           ,
           suppose
           I
           have
           a
           complaint
           
           against
           you
           ,
           for
           which
           I
           demand
           satisfaction
           ,
           at
           the
           least
           ,
           so
           as
           by
           the
           means
           of
           your
           church-censure
           you
           may
           be
           brought
           to
           a
           contrite
           acknowledgement
           of
           the
           wrong
           you
           have
           done
           mee
           .
           But
           if
           you
           cannot
           shew
           me
           such
           a
           church
           in
           any
           of
           your
           Parishes
           ,
           
           b●…
           is
           it
           that
           you
           affirm
           *
           Christ
           to
           be
           set
           up
           as
           King
           in
           his
           Throne
           in
           mens
           hearts
           ,
           swayed
           and
           guided
           by
           the
           Scepter
           of
           his
           Word
           and
           Spirit
           in
           your
           Parochiall
           Congregations
           :
           when
           as
           you
           cannot
           shew
           us
           (
           I
           say
           )
           in
           any
           one
           of
           those
           Congregations
           
             *
          
           the
           
             Name
          
           and
           
             Power
          
           of
           our
           Lord
           Jesus
           Christ
           to
           be
           so
           set
           up
           ,
           as
           authoritatively
           and
           judicially
           to
           deliver
           over
           to
           Satan
           ,
           
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
          
           ,
           or
           otherwise
           condignly
           to
           censure
           such
           a
           one
           ,
           as
           whose
           brother
           complains
           of
           to
           that
           Congregation
           ,
           for
           unsufferable
           wrongs
           ,
           and
           most
           base
           and
           barbarous
           usage
           ,
           unbeseeming
           a
           naturall
           Heathen
           ,
           much
           lesse
           a
           professed
           Christian
           ?
           And
           here
           I
           challenge
           our
           Brother
           for
           taking
           Christs
           Name
           in
           vain
           ,
           when
           in
           stead
           of
           finding
           Christ
           set
           upon
           his
           Throne
           in
           their
           congregations
           ,
           wee
           finde
           there
           no
           more
           but
           an
           Image
           ,
           such
           as
           
             Michal
          
           had
           made
           up
           in
           
           stead
           of
           King
           
             David
             ;
          
           or
           as
           those
           ,
           that
           in
           mockery
           ,
           made
           of
           Christ
           a
           Pageant-king
           ,
           stripping
           him
           ,
           and
           putting
           on
           him
           a
           scarlet
           robe
           ,
           and
           on
           his
           head
           a
           crown
           of
           thornes
           ,
           and
           in
           his
           hand
           a
           reed
           ,
           saluting
           him
           with
           ,
           
             Hail
             king
             of
             the
             Jewes
             ,
          
           with
           which
           title
           over
           his
           head
           they
           crucified
           him
           .
           And
           therefore
           those
           passages
           which
           (
           
             page
          
           118
           ,
           119.
           )
           he
           quotes
           of
           his
           Brother
           (
           though
           not
           named
           )
           will
           stand
           good
           against
           their
           opposers
           ▪
           The
           summe
           of
           which
           is
           this
           :
           That
           all
           that
           depend
           upon
           men
           for
           Church-government
           ,
           and
           not
           upon
           Christ
           and
           his
           Word
           alone
           ,
           doe
           deny
           Christs
           Kingly
           government
           over
           Consciences
           and
           Churches
           :
           that
           all
           that
           receive
           not
           Christs
           Kingly
           office
           in
           the
           full
           extent
           of
           it
           ,
           but
           after
           manifestation
           ,
           doe
           reject
           it
           ,
           are
           at
           the
           best
           converted
           but
           in
           part
           ,
           and
           so
           in
           a
           worse
           condition
           ,
           then
           those
           who
           though
           they
           believed
           ,
           yet
           they
           had
           not
           so
           much
           as
           heard
           there
           was
           a
           Holy
           Ghost
           ,
           but
           hearing
           ,
           they
           received
           him
           :
           that
           such
           as
           refuse
           to
           be
           in
           Covenant
           with
           
           Christ
           ,
           or
           to
           make
           profession
           or
           confession
           thereof
           before
           men
           ,
           want
           their
           evidence
           of
           their
           being
           Gods
           people
           ,
           and
           so
           
             quantum
             in
             se
             ,
          
           as
           much
           as
           in
           them
           lyeth
           ,
           cut
           off
           their
           children
           from
           having
           interest
           in
           Baptisme
           ,
           the
           externall
           seale
           of
           the
           Covenant
           .
           And
           therefore
           seeing
           such
           things
           are
           objected
           ,
           how
           doth
           it
           concerne
           both
           Ministers
           and
           people
           to
           looke
           to
           their
           evidences
           ?
        
         
         
           To
           omit
           his
           tedious
           tautologies
           all
           along
           (
           being
           the
           bombast
           of
           the
           booke
           )
           to
           
             pag.
          
           124.
           there
           he
           saith
           ,
           
             When
             the
             Ministers
             of
             England
             teach
             this
             doctrine
             in
             their
             preachings
             and
             writings
             ,
             how
             can
             they
             be
             truly
             said
             to
             deny
             ,
             disclaime
             ,
             and
             preach
             against
             Christs
             Kingly
             government
             over
             mens
             consciences
             and
             Churches
             ?
          
           It
           were
           well
           if
           they
           did
           truly
           indeed
           preach
           it
           ,
           which
           few
           or
           none
           of
           them
           doe
           .
           Or
           if
           they
           doe
           truly
           preach
           it
           ,
           why
           doe
           they
           not
           practise
           it
           ,
           and
           perswade
           the
           people
           to
           depend
           upon
           Christ
           for
           it
           ,
           and
           not
           upon
           men
           ?
        
         
           
             But
          
           (
           pag.
           126.
           )
           
             the
             Ministers
             of
             England
             set
             up
             a
             Presbytery
             after
             Gods
             Word
             .
          
           This
           you
           can
           never
           yet
           prove
           unto
           us
           ,
           untill
           wee
           may
           see
           it
           .
           
             But
             the
             Independents
             themselves
             are
             Presbyterians
          
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             and
             labour
             ●o
             set
             up
             a
             Presbytery
             of
             their
             own
             .
          
           Thus
           here
           ,
           and
           all
           along
           you
           carry
           it
           with
           a
           torrent
           of
           words
           ,
           and
           that
           is
           all
           .
           Wee
           set
           up
           that
           
             Presbytery
             ,
          
           which
           wee
           finde
           in
           Gods
           Word
           ,
           and
           none
           other
           .
        
         
           Then
           (
           
             pag.
          
           127.
           )
           you
           fall
           againe
           upon
           the
           strictnesse
           used
           in
           admission
           of
           members
           ,
           
             which
          
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             the
             Apostles
             used
             not
             .
          
           But
           wee
           know
           ,
           that
           all
           those
           who
           were
           admitted
           by
           them
           ,
           did
           first
           make
           confession
           of
           their
           faith
           and
           repentance
           ,
           as
           
             Mat.
             3.
             6.
             
             Acts.
             2.
             37.
             
             Act.
             19
             18
             ,
             19.
             
             Act.
          
           8.
           37.
           
           And
           the
           Apostles
           feared
           to
           receiv●Paul
           
             ,
          
           as
           their
           fellow-Apostle
           ,
           untill
           they
           had
           examined
           the
           truth
           thereof
           .
        
         
           And
           (
           
             pag.
          
           130.
           )
           you
           charge
           us
           with
           making
           schismes
           ,
           &c.
           
           Surely
           we
           are
           commanded
           to
           separate
           our selves
           from
           all
           corruptions
           of
           the
           world
           ,
           and
           humane
           inventions
           ;
           as
           2
           
             Cor.
             6.
             16.
             
             Acts
          
           2.
           40.
           and
           this
           ,
           when
           a
           Christian
           Church
           began
           to
           be
           gathered
           out
           of
           that
           of
           the
           
             Jewes
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pag.
          
           138.
           you
           inveigh
           against
           
             new
             truths
             ,
             and
             new
             lights
             ,
          
           as
           you
           every where
           nauseously
           call
           them
           :
           and
           say
           ,
           
             Where
             was
             it
             ever
             heard
             of
             ,
             either
             in
             the
             Christian
             or
             Pagan
             world
             ,
             that
             it
             was
             ever
             permitted
             to
             any
             Minister
             or
             Preacher
             ,
             to
             have
             all
             the
             Pulpits
             in
             any
             Nation
             to
             preach
             a
             diverse
             doctrine
             to
             that
             whi●h
             is
             set
             up
             by
             Authoritie
             ,
             and
             such
             as
             tends
             to
             make
             a
             faction
             and
             division
             amongst
             the
             people
             ?
             I
             doe
             most
             assuredly
             beleeve
             ,
             that
             there
             cannot
             the
             like
             precedent
             be
             produced
             .
          
           So
           you
           .
           No
           ?
           What
           say
           you
           of
           that
           precedent
           of
           the
           Apostles
           ,
           who
           in
           the
           Temple
           daily
           preached
           a
           diversed
           doctrine
           ,
           to
           that
           of
           the
           
             Pharisees
             ?
          
           So
           of
           
             John
             Baptist
             .
          
           So
           of
           Christ
           .
           And
           this
           in
           
             Judea
             ,
          
           which
           was
           a
           Parallel
           at
           least
           to
           a
           Nationall
           Christian
           Church
           ,
           
           onely
           that
           was
           originally
           founded
           upon
           divine
           institution
           ,
           but
           this
           not
           so
           .
           And
           for
           the
           
             Pagan
             World
             ,
          
           what
           innumerable
           precedents
           are
           there
           ,
           of
           preaching
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           and
           constituting
           of
           Churches
           ,
           even
           throughout
           the
           Pagan
           world
           ?
           And
           all
           this
           divers
           to
           that
           which
           was
           set
           up
           by
           mans
           Authoritie
           ,
           whether
           Jewish
           ,
           or
           Paganish
           .
           And
           as
           our
           Brother
           here
           ,
           so
           did
           the
           High
           Priests
           in
           their
           Counsells
           charge
           the
           Apostles
           ,
           saying
           ,
           
             *
          
           
             Yee
             have
             filled
             Jerusalem
             with
             your
             doctrine
             .
          
           A
           new
           Doctrine
           ,
           a
           
             new
             Truth
             ,
          
           a
           
             new
             Light
             .
          
           So
           
             Act.
             24.
             5.
             
             Tertullus
             ,
          
           with
           his
           Rhetoricke
           ,
           being
           feed
           by
           the
           High
           Priest
           and
           the
           Elders
           ,
           makes
           a
           declamation
           against
           
             Paul
             ,
          
           saying
           ,
           
             Wee
             have
             found
             this
             m●m●…
             pestilent
             fellow
             ,
             and
             a
             mover
             of
             sedition
             among
             all
             the
             Jewes
             throughout
             the
             world
             ,
             and
             a
             ringleader
             of
             the
             sect
             of
             the
             Nazarens
             .
          
           And
           this
           word
           
             Nazarens
             ,
          
           signifies
           the
           sect
           of
           
             Saparatists
             ,
          
           of
           whom
           the
           Apostle
           is
           there
           maliciously
           marked
           ,
           as
           the
           
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
          
           ▪
           the
           ring-leader
           .
           The
           like
           out-cry
           we
           have
           ,
           
             Act.
             21.
             28.
             
             Men
             of
             Israel
             ,
             helpe
             :
             This
             is
             the
             man
             ,
             that
             teacheth
             all
             men
             every where
             against
             the
             people
             ,
             and
             the
             Law
             ,
             and
             this
             place
             ,
             &c.
             
          
           Nor
           want
           wee
           a
           Pagan
           precedent
           ,
           
             Act.
          
           19.
           26
           where
           
             Diana's
          
           silver-shrine-maker
           ,
           what
           a
           dust
           he
           raiseth
           in
           the
           whole
           Citie
           ,
           saying
           ;
           
             Yee
             see
             and
             heare
             ,
             that
             not
             alone
             at
             Ephesus
             ,
             but
             almost
             throughout
             all
             Asia
             ,
             this
             Paul
             hath
             perswaded
             and
             turned
             away
             much
             people
             ,
             saying
             ,
             that
             they
             be
             no
             Gods
             which
             be
             made
             with
             hands
             .
          
           Thus
           you
           see
           
             Paul
             ,
          
           and
           the
           other
           Apostles
           ,
           and
           Evangelists
           ,
           found
           Pulpits
           every where
           ,
           both
           among
           the
           Jewes
           and
           Gentiles
           ,
           though
           they
           preached
           a
           divers
           doctrine
           ,
           to
           that
           set
           up
           by
           Authoritie
           .
           And
           must
           Christ
           have
           no
           other
           doctrine
           or
           Church-government
           in
           the
           world
           ,
           then
           that
           which
           is
           set
           up
           by
           the
           worlds
           authoritie
           ?
           Surely
           ,
           this
           is
           a
           
             new
             light
          
           indeed
           ,
           if
           a
           light
           at
           all
           ;
           a
           new
           doctrine
           ,
           diverse
           to
           that
           which
           Christ
           hath
           set
           up
           by
           his
           divine
           authoritie
           .
           
             But
             this
             doctrine
          
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             tends
             to
             make
             a
             faction
             and
             division
             among
             the
             people
             .
          
           And
           did
           
             Pauls
             ,
          
           and
           the
           Apostles
           doctrine
           escape
           the
           scourge
           of
           this
           whip
           ?
           Note
           all
           the
           places
           forecited
           ,
           with
           many
           more
           throughout
           the
           New
           Testament
           ,
           and
           all
           ages
           ,
           where
           the
           Gospel
           in
           its
           purity
           and
           power
           is
           preached
           .
           But
           one
           thing
           more
           I
           must
           not
           passe
           ,
           without
           a
           note
           .
           How
           doth
           our
           Brother
           make
           good
           his
           exclamation
           :
           
             Was
             it
             ever
             beard
             of
             either
             in
             the
             Christian
             or
             Pagan
             world
             ,
             that
             it
             was
             ever
             permitted
             to
             Preachers
             ,
             to
             have
             all
             the
             Pulpits
             in
             a
             Nation
             to
             preach
             a
             divers
             doctrine
             ,
          
           &
           c
           ?
           And
           is
           it
           so
           indeed
           ?
           Have
           we
           all
           the
           Pulpits
           in
           the
           
           Kingdome
           ?
           I
           hope
           your
           Brother
           
             T.
             E.
          
           by
           his
           pen
           and
           preaching
           ,
           and
           you
           by
           your
           pen
           ,
           will
           take
           an
           order
           for
           that
           ,
           that
           wee
           shall
           not
           have
           all
           the
           Pulpits
           ,
           no
           nor
           any
           at
           all
           with
           your
           good
           will
           Witnesse
           that
           late
           mis-●ule
           at
           your
           towne
           of
           
             Colchester
             ,
          
           upon
           your
           Books
           ,
           and
           
             T.
             E.
          
           his
           preaching
           .
           And
           therefore
           this
           may
           be
           placed
           among
           your
           Grolleries
           .
        
         
           And
           for
           the
           Jewish
           Synagogues
           tolerated
           among
           the
           Heathen
           ,
           
           if
           we
           may
           not
           have
           the
           Pulpits
           ,
           good
           now
           envie
           us
           not
           our
           Synagogues
           .
           Be
           not
           worse
           to
           us
           ,
           then
           the
           heathen
           were
           ,
           and
           are
           ,
           as
           you
           give
           us
           sundry
           examples
           ,
           
             pag.
             ibid.
          
           138.
           
        
         
           
             Page
          
           140
           you
           call
           the
           people
           of
           the
           
             Presbyterian
             Independent
             Congregation
             ,
             a
             company
             of
             wild
             geese
             .
          
           But
           wee
           are
           not
           yet
           come
           to
           your
           
             Postscript
             ;
          
           Where
           
             Pag.
          
           14.
           you
           
             call
             them
             silly
             goslings
             following
             the
             old
             goose
             .
          
           Yet
           here
           you
           acknowledge
           that
           the
           
             Elders
          
           have
           oftentimes
           great
           abilities
           of
           wit
           ,
           and
           scholarship
           ,
           learning
           and
           eloquence
           :
           which
           in
           your
           
             Postscript
          
           you
           universally
           strip
           them
           of
           ,
           except
           onely
           two
           for
           breed
           .
        
         
           The
           rest
           of
           your
           Booke
           to
           the
           end
           ,
           being
           all
           along
           overgrowne
           with
           nettles
           ,
           stinging
           upon
           every
           touch
           ,
           and
           the
           sharper
           still
           ,
           the
           neerer
           it
           drawes
           to
           the
           
             Postscript
             ,
          
           (
           as
           ,
           
             Worse
             then
          
           
             *
          
           
             Diotrephes
             ,
          
           or
           
             the
             Pope
             ▪
          
           
             *
          
           
             most
             diabolicall
             Tyranny
             ,
             Lording
             it
             over
             Gods
             Clergies
             ,
          
           
             *
          
           
             Fellows
             of
             Gotham
             Colledge
             ,
             not
             knowing
             their
             Prim●r
             in
             Politicks
             ,
             nor
             their
             Catechisme
             in
             Divinitie
             ,
          
           and
           the
           like
           )
           we
           gladly
           passe
           ove●
           untouched
           ,
           as
           being
           all
           prickles
           ,
           and
           no
           pith
           .
           Onely
           one
           sharper
           then
           all
           the
           rest
           ,
           I
           may
           not
           be
           unaware
           of
           ,
           which
           you
           call
           ,
           
             the
             weapon
             of
          
           
           
             the
             left
             hand
             ,
          
           namely
           ,
           the
           
             sword
             ,
          
           which
           you
           would
           have
           the
           Magistrate
           to
           take
           up
           to
           
             suppresse
             our
             Brethren
             the
             Independents
          
           (
           as
           you
           style
           them
           )
           calling
           that
           man
           a
           
             Ninny
             ,
          
           and
           a
           man
           unworthy
           to
           sit
           in
           Counsell
           in
           any
           State
           ,
           that
           should
           say
           with
           
             Gamaliel
             ,
             Refraine
             from
             these
             men
             ,
             for
             if
             their
             worke
             ,
             or
             Counsell
             be
             of
             God
             ,
             yee
             cannot
             overthrow
             it
             ,
             lest
             yee
             be
             found
             fighters
             against
             God
             ;
             and
             so
             let
             them
             goe
             on
             to
             doe
             mischiefe
             .
          
           For
           herein
           (
           say
           you
           )
           
             Gamaliel
          
           spake
           
             neither
             as
             a
             wise
             man
             ,
             nor
             as
             a
             Christian
             .
          
           Thus
           our
           Brother
           drawing
           neere
           the
           end
           of
           this
           his
           Booke
           ,
           hath
           drawne
           it
           so
           low
           neere
           the
           bottome
           ,
           that
           the
           very
           lees
           of
           it
           begin
           to
           run
           atilt
           ,
           and
           that
           remaines
           ,
           is
           reserved
           to
           be
           powred
           forth
           in
           the
           
             Postscript
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             The
             Postscript
             .
          
           
             THis
             whole
             
               Postscript
            
             is
             a
             very
             
               C●nto
               &
               farrago
               ,
            
             or
             hodge-podge
             of
             invectives
             ,
             sarcasmes
             ,
             scurrilous
             scoffs
             ,
             incendiary
             incentives
             to
             stirre
             up
             the
             State
             ,
             and
             all
             sorts
             of
             people
             ,
             to
             root
             out
             ,
             and
             cut
             off
             all
             those
             that
             are
             of
             the
             
               Independent
               way
               ,
            
             as
             they
             call
             it
             .
             I
             shall
             onely
             note
             some
             of
             his
             passages
             all
             along
             ,
             to
             prevent
             (
             if
             it
             may
             be
             )
             the
             nauseousnesse
             of
             the
             Reader
             by
             brevitie
             .
          
           
             And
             first
             in
             his
             Defence
             against
             calumnies
             ,
             being
             in
             way
             of
             a
             
               Preface
            
             to
             his
             
               Postscript
               .
            
          
           
             
               Page
            
             2.
             
             
               They
               affirmed
            
             (
             saith
             he
             )
             
               that
               I
               was
               the
               greatest
               Incendiary
               in
               the
               Kingdome
               ,
               and
               that
               they
               would
               prove
               it
               ;
            
             and
             
               page
            
             4.
             
               they
               calumniate
               me
               as
               the
               greatest
               incendiary
               of
               the
               Kingdome
               ,
               which
               they
               accused
               me
               of
               before
               they
               had
               seene
               my
               Booke
               ;
               and
               I
               have
               been
               freed
               from
               that
               reproach
               by
               both
               Houses
               of
               Parliament
               ,
               who
               adjudged
               all
               my
               sufferings
               unjust
               .
            
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             But
             now
             they
             may
             bring
             your
             Booke
             for
             a
             proofe
             and
             witnesse
             ,
             whether
             you
             be
             not
             one
             of
             the
             greatest
             Incendiaries
             in
             the
             Land
             .
             And
             for
             this
             I
             shall
             quote
             but
             two
             places
             ,
             as
             two
             witnesses
             for
             confirmation
             hereof
             .
             The
             first
             is
             in
             your
             Preface
             ,
             
               pag.
            
             28.
             
             
               They
            
             (
             alwayes
             meaning
             the
             
               Independents
               )
               have
               the
               sword
               now
               in
               their
               hand
               ,
               and
               they
               thinke
               their
               party
               strong
               enough
               to
               encounter
               any
               adverse
               and
               opposing
               party
               ,
               and
               they
               professe
               they
               care
               not
               how
               soone
               they
               come
               to
               cutting
               of
               throats
               ,
               and
               speake
               of
               nothing
               but
               the
               slanghtering
               and
               butchering
               of
               the
               Presbyterians
               .
               And
               therefore
               there
               is
               just
               cause
               given
               us
               to
               thinke
               we
               may
               expect
               better
               quarter
               from
               the
               very
               enemies
               ,
               then
               from
               the
               Independents
               .
            
             The
             second
             witnesse
             is
             (
             
               Postscript
               pag.
            
             45.
             )
             
               That
               they
               were
               all
               resolved
               to
               have
               the
               liberty
               of
               their
               Consciences
               ,
               or
               else
               they
               would
               make
               use
               of
               their
               swords
               ,
               which
               they
               have
               already
               in
               their
               hands
               .
            
          
           
             Now
             these
             two
             witnesses
             of
             your
             owne
             ,
             want
             but
             a
             Judge
             ,
             judicially
             to
             pronounce
             sentence
             ,
             whether
             these
             words
             be
             not
             of
             an
             incendiary
             nature
             ,
             and
             that
             in
             a
             high
             degree
             .
             For
             who
             so
             blind
             ,
             as
             doth
             not
             cleerly
             see
             these
             fiery
             flashes
             and
             flames
             to
             fly
             in
             the
             face
             of
             
             
             
             that
             Army
             ,
             which
             God
             hath
             honoured
             with
             many
             crownes
             of
             admirable
             victories
             ,
             both
             at
             
               Yorke
               ,
            
             at
             
               Nasby
               ,
            
             and
             at
             
               Lamport
               ,
            
             with
             the
             recovery
             of
             
               Leicester
               ,
               Bridgewater
               ,
               Bath
               ,
            
             &c.
             so
             as
             God
             hath
             made
             this
             despised
             Army
             the
             Preservative
             of
             Citie
             and
             Countrey
             ,
             the
             
               *
            
             
               Repairer
               of
               the
               breach
               ,
               the
               restorer
               of
               the
               paths
               to
               dwell
               in
               .
            
             But
             doe
             they
             professe
             the
             butchery
             of
             the
             
               Presbyterians
               ?
            
             Produce
             them
             ;
             bring
             your
             witnesses
             .
             These
             words
             are
             not
             to
             be
             borne
             .
             But
             I
             leave
             the
             judgement
             thereof
             to
             the
             wisdome
             and
             justice
             of
             the
             Parliament
             ,
             whose
             former
             freeing
             of
             you
             ,
             extends
             not
             to
             cleare
             your
             words
             from
             being
             incendiary
             .
          
           
             And
             further
             to
             discover
             your
             spirit
             against
             those
             Worthies
             in
             
             the
             Army
             ,
             you
             goe
             about
             to
             eclipse
             the
             glory
             of
             that
             famous
             victory
             at
             
               Marston
               m●ore
               .
            
             For
             ,
             speaking
             contemptuously
             of
             it
             ,
             you
             say
             ,
             Some
             of
             the
             
               Independents
            
             stood
             to
             it
             in
             the
             battle
             of
             
               Yorke
               ,
            
             when
             other
             of
             them
             run
             away
             ;
             for
             they
             ran
             as
             well
             as
             others
             ;
             and
             if
             they
             be
             not
             lyers
             ,
             all
             the
             other
             
               Independents
            
             had
             run
             away
             too
             ,
             and
             left
             the
             field
             ,
             if
             they
             had
             known
             what
             had
             happened
             in
             the
             other
             parts
             of
             the
             Army
             .
             So
             you
             ,
             with
             many
             other
             words
             of
             elevation
             ,
             and
             slighting
             that
             party
             ,
             by
             whose
             noble
             prowesse
             ,
             and
             undaunted
             courage
             ,
             God
             was
             pleased
             to
             give
             the
             victory
             ,
             and
             even
             then
             when
             a
             great
             body
             of
             the
             Army
             deserted
             the
             field
             .
             And
             whereas
             you
             say
             ,
             they
             saw
             not
             the
             flight
             ,
             else
             they
             would
             have
             fled
             too
             for
             company
             ,
             
               if
            
             (
             say
             you
             )
             
               they
               be
               not
               lyers
               ;
            
             or
             if
             you
             say
             true
             .
             But
             I
             can
             produce
             those
             that
             were
             actors
             in
             that
             battle
             ,
             and
             are
             no
             
               Independents
               ,
            
             that
             affirme
             ,
             there
             was
             no
             running
             away
             at
             all
             ,
             of
             those
             whose
             valour
             you
             so
             vilifie
             ;
             yea
             ,
             though
             they
             did
             perceive
             how
             the
             matter
             went
             with
             some
             ,
             as
             when
             a
             whole
             body
             flies
             ,
             a
             thing
             with
             no
             great
             difficulty
             to
             be
             discerned
             .
             The
             rest
             of
             your
             vilifications
             so
             much
             exaggerated
             upon
             these
             men
             ,
             are
             so
             nauseous
             ,
             as
             every
             ingenuous
             Reader
             will
             loath
             them
             .
             And
             notorious
             is
             that
             you
             say
             ,
             
               as
               by
               experience
               ,
            
             
             
               I
               know
               not
               any
               Independent
               in
               England
            
             (
             two
             onely
             excepted
             )
             
               that
               doe
               not
               as
               maliciously
               and
               impla●ably
               hate
               the
               Presbyterians
               ,
               as
               the
               mortallest
               enemies
               they
               have
               in
               the
               world
               .
            
             Now
             surely
             were
             all
             the
             
               Presbyterians
            
             in
             
               England
            
             of
             your
             spirit
             ,
             though
             the
             
               Independents
            
             would
             not
             maliciously
             hate
             you
             ,
             as
             
               Presbyterians
               ,
            
             yet
             cause
             you
             would
             give
             them
             sufficient
             to
             beware
             of
             you
             ,
             as
             of
             their
             mortallest
             enemies
             in
             the
             world
             .
             And
             you
             boldly
             conclude
             ,
             saying
             ;
             
               It
               is
               a
            
             
             
               meere
               faction
               ,
               and
               the
               most
               Pharisaicall
               ,
               proud
               ,
               envious
               ,
               and
               malicious
            
             
             
               sect
               ,
               that
               ever
               sprung
               up
               ;
               doing
               all
               out
               of
               an
               arrogant
               faction
               ;
               as
               cunning
               as
               Gypsies
               ,
            
             &c.
             
             Now
             the
             Lord
             rebuke
             the
             rayling
             
               Rabshakees
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pag.
            
             4.
             
             He
             commends
             the
             Kings
             Cavaliers
             for
             brave
             Gentlemen
             ;
             and
             he
             found
             more
             favour
             (
             which
             he
             doth
             ever
             acknowledge
             for
             a
             singular
             courtesie
             )
             then
             ever
             he
             found
             from
             Protestant
             Gaolers
             .
             Was
             it
             that
             you
             discovered
             unto
             them
             some
             of
             that
             bitternesse
             of
             spirit
             against
             the
             
               Independents
               ,
            
             or
             some
             courtly
             compliance
             with
             Papists
             ,
             preferring
             them
             before
             
               Independents
            
             or
             
               Protestants
               ,
            
             that
             made
             those
             Popish
             Cavaliers
             so
             much
             to
             applaud
             you
             ?
          
           
             But
             doe
             the
             
               Independents
            
             accuse
             your
             Booke
             ,
             as
             worthy
             to
             be
             
             burnt
             by
             the
             common
             hangman
             ,
             and
             that
             you
             are
             crased
             in
             your
             braine
             ?
             Surely
             ,
             there
             is
             so
             much
             fire
             in
             the
             bowels
             of
             your
             booke
             ,
             (
             as
             in
             the
             
               Trojan
            
             horse
             )
             that
             a
             wonder
             it
             is
             ,
             it
             hath
             not
             all
             this
             while
             set
             it selfe
             on
             fire
             ,
             &
             with
             it selfe
             (
             like
             that
             tongue
             in
             
               James
            
             3.
             )
             the
             whole
             frame
             of
             nature
             .
             And
             for
             your
             braine
             ,
             you
             may
             doe
             well
             to
             use
             your
             physicall
             inspection
             .
          
           
             
               Page
               7.
               
               Neither
               have
               I
            
             (
             say
             you
             )
             
               forgot
               ,
               that
               I
               was
               a
               sufferer
               ,
               or
               am
               now
               a
               persecutor
               of
               the
               Saints
               ,
            
             as
             they
             calumniate
             mee
             .
             It
             were
             well
             if
             you
             would
             forget
             &
             forgoe
             to
             be
             a
             persecutor
             of
             the
             Saints
             ,
             and
             that
             upon
             your
             repentance
             God
             would
             forgive
             you
             ,
             as
             those
             Saints
             are
             ready
             to
             doe
             .
             There
             is
             no
             greater
             persecution
             ,
             then
             that
             
             of
             the
             tongue
             and
             pen
             ,
             sharper
             then
             swords
             and
             speares
             .
             No
             sorer
             persecution
             then
             
               Esaus
            
             scoffs
             ,
             and
             the
             
               Jewes
            
             tongue-smitings
             .
             But
             most
             transcendent
             from
             a
             brother
             ,
             a
             companion
             in
             tribulations
             ,
             a
             familiar
             friend
             .
             
               Et
               tu
               Brute
               ?
            
             And
             yet
             all
             your
             scoffs
             and
             hard
             speeches
             ,
             and
             bitter
             reproachings
             of
             those
             ,
             whom
             you
             must
             needs
             confesse
             to
             be
             Saints
             ,
             will
             not
             amount
             to
             the
             least
             
               Item
            
             of
             persecution
             .
             That
             were
             pitie
             .
             What
             thinke
             you
             of
             the
             like
             speech
             the
             late
             Prelate
             of
             
               Canterbury
            
             used
             in
             his
             
               *
            
             Booke
             to
             the
             King
             ?
             
               God
               forbid
            
             (
             saith
             he
             )
             
               that
               I
               should
               perswade
               persecution
               in
               any
               kinde
               ,
               or
               practise
               it
               in
               the
               least
               .
            
             Did
             this
             protestation
             (
             trow
             you
             )
             cleare
             him
             from
             being
             a
             notorious
             ,
             yea
             ,
             unparalleld
             Persecutor
             ?
             Witnesse
             both
             your
             eares
             and
             mine
             .
             But
             you
             doe
             but
             oppose
             the
             Saints
             heresies
             and
             
             novelties
             in
             Religion
             .
             But
             must
             that
             needs
             be
             heresie
             ,
             which
             you
             account
             heresie
             ?
             Or
             that
             noveltie
             ,
             which
             appeares
             so
             to
             those
             that
             measure
             things
             rather
             by
             custome
             ,
             then
             truth
             ?
             And
             doe
             you
             not
             no
             lesse
             oppose
             ,
             vilifie
             ,
             disgrace
             ,
             jeare
             ,
             and
             scoffe
             at
             their
             persons
             ?
             
             
             Doe
             you
             not
             call
             them
             
               *
            
             Beasts
             ?
             
               *
            
             Grolls
             ?
             Puffoists
             ?
             Wild
             geese
             ?
             Old
             geese
             ?
             a
             company
             of
             Jugglers
             ?
             Sticklers
             against
             Parliament
             and
             
               Presbytery
               ?
            
             a
             generation
             of
             cunning
             and
             crafty
             jugglers
             ?
             cunning
             deceivers
             ?
             and
             fighters
             against
             God
             ?
             violaters
             of
             all
             the
             lawes
             of
             God
             and
             Nature
             ?
             the
             most
             dangerous
             sect
             that
             ever
             yet
             the
             world
             produced
             ?
             a
             company
             of
             ratts
             among
             joyn'd
             stooles
             ?
             Despisers
             of
             Magistracy
             ?
             a
             generation
             of
             men
             ,
             not
             worthy
             to
             give
             guts
             to
             a
             Beare
             ?
             Moone-calves
             ?
             All
             the
             
               Independents
            
             put
             together
             ,
             have
             
             not
             so
             much
             learning
             as
             any
             one
             of
             a
             thousand
             other
             Ministers
             ?
             A
             Wheele-barrow
             (
             such
             as
             they
             trundle
             White-wine-vinegar
             on
             )
             fitter
             for
             them
             then
             a
             Coach
             ?
             Stirring
             up
             all
             along
             Magistrates
             and
             People
             to
             cut
             them
             off
             ?
             making
             them
             odious
             to
             the
             
               Scots
               ?
            
             speaking
             nothing
             but
             daggers
             ,
             and
             daring
             ?
             and
             what
             not
             ?
             Now
             is
             all
             this
             no
             opposing
             of
             the
             Persons
             of
             those
             you
             call
             
               Independents
               ?
            
          
           
             To
             conclude
             all
             :
             You
             tell
             us
             a
             story
             of
             some
             that
             fight
             against
             
             their
             Christian
             brethren
             ;
             and
             to
             that
             end
             in
             the
             frontispices
             of
             their
             Books
             set
             downe
             Christs
             words
             ,
             
               Mat.
            
             10.
             34
             ,
             35
             ,
             36.
             
             
               Thinke
               not
               that
               I
               am
               come
               to
               send
               peace
               on
               the
               earth
               ;
               I
               came
               not
               to
               send
               peace
               ,
               but
               a
               sword
               ,
            
             &c.
             Well
             :
             what
             of
             this
             ?
             
               Out
               of
               which
               words
               ,
               misunderstood
            
             (
             say
             you
             )
             
               they
               would
               perswade
               the
               people
               ,
               and
               make
               them
               believe
               ,
               that
               they
               have
               good
               warrant
               and
               ground
               to
               fight
               against
               their
               Christian
               brethren
               ,
               for
               the
               maintenance
               of
               their
               owne
               Whimsies
               .
            
             But
             Brother
             ,
             who
             is
             this
             you
             speake
             of
             ?
             Who
             hath
             done
             thus
             ?
             
               They
               ?
            
             What
             
               they
               ?
            
             You
             put
             it
             in
             the
             plurall
             ,
             
               In
               their
               frontispices
               .
            
             You
             know
             ,
             
               Dolosus
               v●rsatur
               in
               universalibus
               .
            
             But
             is
             it
             in
             any
             more
             then
             one
             onely
             frontispice
             ?
             And
             have
             more
             then
             one
             done
             it
             ?
             And
             what
             one
             ?
             You
             describe
             him
             (
             
               pag.
            
             44.
             )
             as
             not
             knowing
             his
             name
             ,
             but
             one
             who
             is
             
               no
               Novice
               ,
               Younker
               ,
            
             and
             
               fresh-water
               Souldier
               ,
            
             but
             
               a
               grave
               man
               with
               a
               great
               white
               basket-hilted
               beard
               .
            
             Why
             ,
             Brother
             ,
             what
             needed
             all
             these
             periphrases
             and
             circumlocutions
             ?
             You
             might
             much
             more
             honestly
             ,
             ingenuously
             ,
             and
             candidly
             have
             said
             ,
             My
             
               brother
               Burton
               ,
            
             then
             thus
             slily
             and
             disgracefully
             to
             take
             him
             by
             the
             beard
             ,
             or
             Serpent-like
             ,
             to
             come
             behind
             him
             ,
             and
             bite
             him
             by
             the
             heele
             .
             But
             this
             is
             not
             all
             .
             How
             comes
             it
             ,
             that
             you
             fasten
             upon
             your
             Brother
             such
             a
             false
             glosse
             ,
             as
             that
             he
             should
             
               perswade
               the
               people
               ,
            
             and
             
               make
               them
               believe
               ,
            
             that
             from
             
               Christs
               words
               ,
            
             they
             
               have
               good
               warrant
               and
               ground
               to
               fight
               against
               their
               Christian
               brethren
               ?
            
             Brother
             ,
             I
             must
             needs
             here
             challenge
             you
             of
             
             extreame
             violation
             ,
             not
             onely
             of
             brotherly
             charitie
             ,
             but
             even
             of
             the
             Lawes
             of
             common
             humanitie
             .
             Doe
             you
             (
             out
             of
             no
             other
             ground
             but
             meere
             malice
             ,
             as
             all
             the
             world
             must
             needs
             judge
             )
             hatch
             a
             Cockatrice-egge
             ,
             a
             senselesse
             ,
             whimsie
             in
             your
             own
             braine
             ,
             and
             then
             lay
             your
             dead
             childe
             by
             mee
             ,
             and
             take
             my
             living
             childe
             from
             mee
             ,
             as
             you
             have
             done
             ,
             in
             framing
             your
             own
             false
             sense
             ,
             and
             putting
             it
             for
             mine
             ,
             and
             taking
             my
             true
             sense
             ,
             and
             making
             it
             your
             owne
             ?
             Brother
             ,
             What
             's
             become
             ,
             I
             say
             not
             of
             your
             brotherhood
             ,
             but
             of
             your
             manhood
             ?
             Or
             did
             you
             thinke
             to
             cover
             your selfe
             with
             your
             owne
             Cobweb
             ,
             that
             the
             palpable
             nakedness
             of
             your
             shiftless
             and
             shameless
             affront
             should
             not
             be
             seene
             ?
             Surely
             ,
             this
             is
             enough
             ,
             not
             onely
             to
             discover
             the
             hollow
             of
             your
             heart
             ,
             but
             the
             shallow
             of
             your
             braine
             ,
             and
             to
             bring
             in
             the
             verdict
             of
             the
             whole
             Universe
             ,
             that
             you
             are
             a
             man
             ,
             not
             onely
             whose
             heart
             is
             divided
             ,
             but
             whose
             head
             is
             ,
             &c.
             salve
             it
             as
             you
             can
             .
             Now
             the
             Lord
             Jesus
             Christ
             
               reprove
            
             you
             for
             this
             ,
             and
             give
             you
             repentance
             for
             this
             your
             more
             then
             unnaturall
             dealing
             ,
             that
             I
             may
             not
             say
             diabolicall
             ,
             certainly
             not
             Christian
             ,
             even
             your
             best
             friends
             being
             Judges
             .
          
           
             And
             for
             the
             grollery
             and
             dotage
             you
             put
             upon
             your
             brother
             ,
             (
             
               ibid.
            
             and
             
               pag.
            
             45.
             )
             as
             abusing
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             when
             your self
             most
             grossely
             abuse
             both
             it
             and
             him
             ;
             assure
             your self
             ,
             your
             brother
             is
             not
             yet
             come
             to
             that
             dotage
             ,
             but
             for
             all
             your
             vauntings
             on
             your
             part
             ,
             and
             vilifying
             of
             his
             ,
             he
             dare
             ,
             through
             the
             help
             of
             Christ
             ,
             deale
             with
             Dr.
             
               Bastwick
            
             hand
             to
             hand
             ,
             as
             neither
             admiring
             your
             learning
             ,
             nor
             envying
             your
             Roman
             buff
             ,
             wherein
             your
             chief
             strength
             most
             lyeth
             ,
             except
             in
             your
             scoffing
             ,
             scurrilous
             ,
             malicious
             bitter
             biting
             ;
             yea
             ,
             bloody
             language
             ,
             in
             which
             faculty
             ,
             as
             
               facile
               princeps
               ,
            
             you
             do
             so
             tripudiate
             and
             glory
             .
          
           
             But
             in
             your
             last
             Book
             ,
             which
             you
             style
             (
             but
             how
             justly
             )
             
               A
               just
               Defence
               ,
            
             
             &c.
             you
             would
             seem
             to
             teach
             us
             another
             rule
             to
             walk
             by
             ,
             which
             it
             seems
             you
             had
             not
             then
             learned
             ,
             when
             you
             writ
             your
             
               Postscript
               :
               We
               ought
               not
            
             (
             say
             you
             )
             
               per
               latus
               unius
               totam
               gentem
               perstringere
               ▪
            
             you
             tel
             the
             Liev.
             Colonel
             ,
             
               that
               he
               should
               not
               have
               condemned
               the
               whole
               Councel
               for
               a
               few
               ,
               but
               should
               have
               singled
               them
               out
               ,
               and
               by
               name
               have
               aspersed
               them
               ▪
            
             And
             why
             did
             not
             you
             then
             rather
             call
             me
             by
             my
             name
             ,
             as
             your
             brother
             
               Burton
            
             (
             as
             our
             brother
             
               Prynne
            
             hath
             done
             )
             then
             to
             hale
             me
             out
             by
             
               my
               great
               white
               basket-hilted
               beard
               ,
            
             as
             some
             hideous
             Monster
             ,
             or
             ridiculous
             spectacle
             to
             the
             world
             ?
             And
             whereas
             (
             
               ibid.
            
             )
             you
             
             
             adde
             ,
             
               that
               you
               have
               written
               nothing
               in
               your
               books
               against
               the
               Independents
               ,
               wherein
               you
               can
               be
               convinced
               of
               a
               lie
               :
               For
            
             (
             say
             you
             )
             
               I
               write
               nothing
               in
               my
               books
               against
               the
               Independents
               ,
               but
               what
               upon
               my
               own
               knowledge
               I
               can
               affirm
               to
               be
               true
               ,
               yea
               ,
               depose
               it
               too
               .
            
             Now
             to
             go
             no
             further
             then
             this
             one
             instance
             of
             your
             dealing
             with
             mee
             (
             
               aliâs
            
             your
             brother
             )
             in
             fathering
             upon
             mee
             such
             a
             damnable
             and
             diabolicall
             glosse
             ,
             being
             the
             spurious
             brat
             of
             your
             own
             brain
             ;
             What
             say
             you
             ?
             Do
             you
             know
             it
             of
             your
             own
             knowledge
             to
             be
             so
             ,
             that
             because
             I
             set
             that
             Scripture
             in
             the
             front
             of
             my
             book
             ,
             therefore
             my
             meaning
             was
             ,
             hereby
             to
             perswade
             the
             people
             ,
             and
             make
             them
             believe
             ,
             that
             they
             have
             good
             warrant
             and
             ground
             to
             fight
             
             against
             their
             Christian
             brethren
             for
             the
             maintenance
             of
             their
             own
             
               Whimsies
               ?
            
             They
             be
             your
             own
             words
             ,
             and
             you
             may
             take
             the
             whimsies
             in
             to
             boot
             .
             Now
             ,
             did
             I
             ever
             so
             perswade
             the
             people
             ,
             or
             make
             them
             believe
             so
             ?
             Nay
             ,
             I
             will
             put
             it
             to
             your
             own
             conscience
             (
             as
             hoping
             you
             have
             so
             much
             left
             )
             whether
             in
             your
             conscience
             you
             can
             so
             much
             as
             once
             imagine
             ,
             that
             your
             brother
             could
             ever
             have
             the
             least
             thought
             that
             way
             ,
             or
             the
             least
             word
             tending
             thereunto
             ;
             wherein
             I
             challenge
             that
             ,
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             ,
             the
             accuser
             of
             the
             brethren
             
             himself
             ,
             whose
             Scholar
             I
             wish
             not
             you
             to
             be
             .
             As
             for
             that
             other
             passage
             of
             your
             said
             book
             (
             
               pag.
            
             39.
             )
             to
             let
             passe
             many
             other
             ;
             as
             touching
             your
             
               Independent-Pastor
               ,
            
             it
             is
             as
             false
             as
             slie
             ,
             do
             you
             and
             your
             reverend
             brother
             try
             it
             when
             you
             will
             .
          
        
         
           
             An
             Appendix
             .
          
           
             WHerein
             is
             touched
             the
             main
             point
             of
             difference
             between
             the
             two
             Parties
             ,
             
               Classicall
            
             or
             
               Nationall
               ,
            
             and
             
               Congregationall
               :
            
             Our
             brother
             ,
             Mr.
             
               William
               Pryn
               ,
            
             whose
             latter
             books
             (
             
               Truth
               triumphing
               ,
            
             &c.
             and
             
               A
               fresh
               Discovery
               ,
            
             &c.
             )
             I
             have
             meerly
             (
             God
             is
             my
             record
             )
             out
             of
             tendernesse
             to
             the
             present
             state
             of
             things
             ,
             forborn
             to
             answer
             ,
             hath
             sundry
             times
             in
             those
             books
             objected
             principally
             those
             words
             in
             my
             
               Vindication
               ,
            
             concerning
             Christs
             kingly
             office
             over
             the
             Churches
             and
             consciences
             of
             his
             people
             :
             as
             in
             
               Truth
               triumphing
               ,
            
             pag.
             112
             ,
             113.
             and
             in
             his
             
               Fresh
               Discovery
               ,
            
             pag.
             4.
             in
             these
             words
             ,
             Mr.
             
               Henry
               Burton
               ,
               in
               his
               Vindication
               of
               Churches
               ,
               commonly
               called
               Independent
               ,
            
             &c.
             
          
           
             The
             Church
             is
             a
             spirituall
             kingdome
             ,
             whose
             only
             King
             is
             Christ
             ,
             
             and
             not
             man
             ;
             it
             is
             a
             spirituall
             Republique
             ,
             whose
             only
             Law-giver
             is
             Christ
             ,
             and
             not
             man
             :
             A
             spirituall
             house
             ,
             whose
             only
             builder
             and
             governour
             is
             Christ
             :
             A
             spirituall
             Corporation
             ,
             whose
             only
             head
             is
             Christ
             ,
             and
             not
             man
             .
             No
             man
             ,
             or
             power
             on
             earth
             ,
             hath
             a
             kingly
             power
             over
             this
             kingdome
             ;
             no
             earthly
             Law-giver
             may
             give
             lawes
             for
             the
             government
             of
             this
             Republique
             ;
             no
             man
             can
             ,
             or
             ought
             ,
             to
             undertake
             the
             government
             of
             this
             communion
             of
             Saints
             ;
             no
             humane
             Power
             or
             Law
             may
             intermeddle
             to
             prescribe
             rules
             for
             the
             government
             or
             form
             of
             this
             spirituall
             House
             ,
             
               NOT
               COVNCELS
               ,
               NOT
               SENATES
               .
            
             This
             is
             Christs
             royall
             Prerogative
             ,
             which
             is
             uncommunicable
             to
             
               ANY
               ,
               TO
               ALL
               THE
               POWERS
               ON
               EARTH
               .
            
             He
             addes
             my
             words
             ,
             
               pag.
            
             60
             ,
             61.
             
             
               Wee
               challenge
               you
               to
               shew
               us
               any
               Parliament
               ,
               Councel
               ,
               Synod
               ,
               ever
               since
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               that
               could
               ,
               or
               can
               say
               thus
               ,
               It
               seemed
               good
               to
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               and
               us
               ,
               so
               to
               determine
               controversies
               of
               Religion
               ,
               to
               make
               and
               impose
               Canons
               to
               bind
               all
               men
               ,
            
             &c.
             shew
             this
             to
             us
             at
             this
             time
             ,
             and
             wee
             will
             obey
             .
             But
             if
             you
             cannot
             ,
             as
             you
             never
             can
             ,
             never
             let
             any
             man
             presse
             upon
             us
             that
             Scripture
             ,
             that
             Synod
             ,
             (
             
               Acts
            
             15.
             )
             which
             hath
             no
             parallel
             in
             the
             whole
             world
             ;
             and
             so
             is
             no
             precedent
             or
             pattern
             for
             any
             Councels
             ,
             Synods
             ,
             Parliaments
             .
          
           
             Thus
             our
             brother
             sees
             down
             the
             words
             ,
             here
             and
             there
             with
             capitalls
             ,
             as
             if
             so
             many
             capitall
             crimes
             .
             But
             the
             worst
             of
             all
             is
             ,
             that
             he
             ranks
             them
             under
             the
             head
             of
             his
             
               first
               Section
               ,
               containing
               divers
               seditious
               ,
               scandalous
               ,
               libellous
               passages
               against
               the
               Authority
               and
               Jurisdiction
               of
               Parliaments
               ,
               Synods
               ,
               and
               temporall
               Magistrates
               in
               generall
               ,
               in
               Ecclesiasticall
               affaires
               ,
               in
               the
               late
               writings
               of
               severall
               Independent
               New-lights
               ,
               and
               Firebrands
               ;
            
             so
             runs
             the
             Title
             of
             the
             Section
             ,
             under
             which
             hee
             marshals
             those
             my
             words
             ,
             as
             if
             Christ
             could
             not
             be
             sole
             King
             ,
             Lord
             ,
             and
             Law-giver
             over
             his
             own
             spirituall
             Kingdome
             in
             the
             soules
             and
             assemblies
             of
             his
             Saints
             ,
             but
             this
             doctrine
             must
             needs
             be
             seditious
             ,
             scandalous
             ,
             and
             the
             writers
             thereof
             libellous
             ,
             against
             civill
             authority
             ,
             yea
             ,
             firebrands
             ,
             and
             what
             not
             ?
             How
             more
             equall
             was
             the
             Heathen
             Emperor
             
               Domitian
               ,
            
             though
             the
             
             Author
             of
             the
             second
             Persecution
             ,
             who
             though
             he
             laboured
             utterly
             to
             extirpate
             and
             extinguish
             all
             the
             naturall
             kindred
             of
             Christ
             ,
             because
             hee
             heard
             that
             Christ
             was
             a
             King
             ,
             fearing
             thereby
             the
             overthrow
             of
             his
             Empire
             ;
             yet
             understanding
             afterward
             ,
             by
             two
             of
             Christs
             neerest
             kinsmen
             brought
             before
             him
             ,
             being
             but
             poor
             men
             ,
             
             and
             who
             got
             their
             living
             by
             hard
             labour
             in
             husbandrie
             ,
             how
             that
             Christ
             was
             a
             King
             indeed
             ,
             but
             his
             Kingdome
             was
             not
             of
             this
             world
             ,
             but
             heavenly
             :
             the
             Emperor
             hereupon
             ,
             (
             as
             the
             Story
             saith
             )
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             ,
             ceased
             the
             Persecution
             against
             the
             Church
             ,
             by
             calling
             in
             his
             Imperiall
             Decree
             .
             I
             wish
             our
             brother
             would
             more
             seriously
             consider
             ,
             not
             only
             of
             this
             famous
             example
             of
             an
             Heathen
             Emperour
             ,
             but
             also
             upon
             what
             sound
             reason
             it
             is
             grounded
             :
             as
             namely
             ,
             upon
             such
             a
             distinct
             specificall
             difference
             between
             these
             two
             Kingdomes
             ,
             the
             celestiall
             and
             the
             terrestriall
             ,
             as
             that
             in
             no
             sort
             they
             may
             be
             confounded
             ,
             or
             compounded
             into
             one
             terrene
             kingdome
             ,
             unlesse
             you
             will
             set
             up
             a
             Papall
             power
             ,
             an
             Harmophrodite-government
             ,
             with
             
               Ecce
               duo
               gladii
               hîc
               ,
            
             Behold
             here
             two
             swords
             ,
             which
             the
             Pope
             
             caused
             to
             be
             carryed
             before
             him
             in
             solemn
             procession
             the
             two
             first
             dayes
             of
             his
             new
             erected
             Jubilee
             .
          
           
             And
             for
             my
             challenge
             alledged
             by
             him
             ,
             it
             stands
             good
             still
             ,
             till
             hee
             can
             prove
             those
             words
             ,
             in
             the
             end
             of
             his
             
               Truth
               triumphing
               ,
            
             true
             ,
             where
             your
             words
             are
             ,
             we
             cannot
             but
             in
             Christian
             charity
             expect
             and
             believe
             ,
             that
             all
             the
             Assembly
             and
             Parliament
             resolve
             on
             ,
             may
             have
             inscribed
             on
             its
             front
             ,
             
               IT
               SEEMED
               GOOD
               TO
               THE
               HOLY
               GHOST
               AND
               VS
               .
            
             And
             then
             again
             ,
             
             you
             must
             prove
             your
             reason
             good
             ,
             whereupon
             you
             inferre
             this
             conclusion
             ;
             namely
             ,
             because
             there
             be
             in
             the
             Parliament
             and
             Assembly
             ,
             at
             least
             some
             true
             
               Nathaniels
            
             and
             
               Stephens
               ,
            
             filled
             with
             the
             Holy
             Ghost
             ,
             and
             so
             many
             armies
             of
             prayers
             in
             the
             Spirit
             daily
             sent
             up
             to
             heaven
             ,
             to
             bring
             down
             that
             Spirit
             of
             truth
             upon
             them
             .
             But
             can
             a
             few
             ,
             
               at
               least
               some
               Nathaniels
               ,
            
             among
             so
             many
             ,
             carry
             the
             matters
             by
             vote
             ,
             if
             they
             be
             many
             that
             contra-vote
             ?
             You
             know
             things
             go
             sometimes
             in
             Councels
             ,
             rather
             by
             number
             then
             weight
             ,
             rather
             by
             tale
             ,
             then
             truth
             .
             I
             doubt
             ,
             whether
             if
             the
             true
             
               Nathaniels
            
             and
             zealous
             
               Stephens
            
             should
             bear
             the
             sway
             ,
             it
             would
             not
             well
             please
             ,
             at
             least
             our
             
             brother
             
               Bastwicks
            
             palate
             ,
             who
             altogether
             condemneth
             
               Gamaliel
            
             and
             his
             counsell
             ,
             whereby
             hee
             perswaded
             and
             swayed
             the
             whole
             
               Synedrion
            
             to
             refrain
             from
             
               Peter
            
             and
             
               John
               ,
            
             for
             peaching
             Christ
             ,
             saving
             only
             that
             they
             escaped
             not
             a
             scourging
             .
             For
             further
             answer
             to
             my
             dear
             brother
             ,
             I
             shall
             forbeare
             till
             a
             fitter
             season
             .
          
           
             In
             the
             mean
             time
             ,
             I
             shall
             conclude
             with
             the
             words
             of
             my
             brother
             
               Bastwick
               ,
            
             which
             hee
             delivers
             as
             the
             confession
             of
             the
             faith
             of
             the
             
             Church
             of
             
               England
               ,
            
             concerning
             Christs
             kingly
             office
             ;
             and
             so
             consequently
             of
             his
             own
             faith
             .
             
               That
               Jesus
               Christ
               is
               the
               only
               and
               sole
               King
               ,
               and
               Governour
               of
               the
               whole
               universe
               ,
               to
               whom
               all
               power
               in
               heaven
               and
               earth
               is
               given
               ,
            
             Matth.
             28.
             
               but
               more
               especially
               of
               his
               Church
               ,
               who
               by
               God
               himselfe
               was
               set
               King
               over
               his
               holy
               mountain
               ,
            
             Psal.
             2.
             6.
             
             
               And
               that
               hee
               is
               King
               of
               righteousnesse
               ,
            
             Hebr.
             7.
             
             
               The
               King
               eternall
               ,
            
             Isai.
             9.
             
             
               The
               King
               of
               kings
               ,
               and
               Lord
               of
               lords
               ,
            
             Apoc.
             17.
             
               and
               that
               he
               doth
               by
               his
               mighty
               power
               and
               wisdome
               ,
               uphold
               and
               govern
               all
               things
               ,
               but
               with
               a
               more
               peculiar
               care
               ,
               and
               a
               more
               speciall
               manner
               preserve
               and
               defend
               his
               Church
               ,
            
             1
             Tim.
             4.
             10.
             
               as
               that
               which
               hee
               hath
               purchased
               with
               his
               precious
               blood
               ,
               and
               by
               his
               power
               redeemed
               out
               of
               the
               captivity
               and
               slavery
               of
               Satan
               ;
               and
               that
               he
               is
               the
               head
               of
               his
               Church
               ,
               which
               is
               the
               body
               ,
               who
               infuseth
               life
               into
               it
               ;
               righteousnesse
               ,
               peace
               ,
               joy
               ,
               happinesse
               ,
               and
               all
               the
               graces
               of
               wisdome
               and
               knowledge
               of
               God
               with
               certainty
               and
               assurance
               of
               his
               love
               ;
               and
               that
               his
               Kingdome
               and
               Empire
               is
               a
               spirituall
               and
               heavenly
               Kingdome
               ,
               no
               terrene
               and
               fading
               Monarchy
               ,
            
             Joh.
             18.
             38.
             
             Luke
             1.
             33.
             
               and
               is
               upheld
               and
               governed
            
             ONLY
             
               by
               the
               Scepter
               of
               his
               Spirit
               and
               Word
               ,
               and
               not
               by
               the
               authority
               ,
               vertue
               or
               wisdome
               of
               any
               humane
               power
               .
            
             Thus
             Dr.
             
               Bastwick
               ,
            
             and
             that
             after
             all
             his
             bitter
             reproaches
             cast
             upon
             his
             
               Independents
               ,
            
             who
             hang
             all
             that
             which
             he
             calls
             
               Independency
            
             upon
             this
             sole
             hinge
             ;
             namely
             ,
             That
             Christs
             
               Kingdome
            
             and
             
               Empire
               ,
            
             is
             a
             
               spirituall
               and
               heavenly
               Kingdome
               ,
            
             no
             
               terrene
               and
               fading
               Monarchy
               ;
            
             and
             is
             
               upheld
               and
               governed
            
             ONLY
             
               by
               the
               Scepter
               of
               his
               Spirit
               and
               Word
               ,
               and
               not
               by
               the
               authority
               ,
               vertue
               or
               wisdome
               of
               any
               humane
               power
               .
            
             Now
             if
             Dr.
             
               Bastwick
            
             will
             hold
             to
             his
             words
             and
             writing
             ,
             he
             must
             needs
             confesse
             ,
             that
             Christ
             is
             no
             titular
             or
             Pageant
             Prince
             (
             as
             before
             )
             but
             reall
             and
             indeed
             :
             And
             therefore
             his
             Kingdome
             is
             not
             to
             be
             governed
             according
             to
             the
             various
             and
             variable
             laws
             and
             customes
             of
             earthly
             Kingdomes
             ,
             Common-wealths
             ,
             Countries
             ;
             but
             by
             the
             
               Only
               Scepter
               of
               his
               Spirit
               and
               Word
               ;
            
             Otherwise
             the
             spirituall
             Kingdome
             and
             the
             temporall
             must
             be
             confounded
             together
             ,
             and
             become
             one
             kingdome
             ,
             and
             then
             must
             either
             the
             spirituall
             become
             terrene
             and
             transitory
             ,
             or
             else
             the
             temporall
             become
             eternall
             ,
             and
             so
             make
             up
             one
             
               Babylan
               ,
               Roma
               aetern●
               ,
            
             confusion
             and
             blasphemy
             .
          
           
             And
             for
             a
             close
             ,
             to
             satisfie
             my
             brother
             
               Prynnes
            
             Question
             ,
             
               What
               I
               mean
               by
               so
               much
               asserting
               Christs
               Kingly
               office
               ,
               as
               sole
               Head
               ,
               Governour
               ,
               Law-giver
               of
               his
               Churches
               ,
            
             I
             mean
             ,
             hee
             is
             the
             sole
             immediate
             
             King
             .
             And
             the
             proofs
             are
             from
             solid
             Scripture
             ,
             the
             sole
             rule
             of
             faith
             :
             As
             
               Isai.
            
             8.
             20.
             and
             29.
             13.
             
             
               Hos.
               5.
               11.
               
               Matth.
               15.
               6
               ,
               7
               ,
               8
               ,
               9.
               
               Mar.
            
             7.
             7.
             
             And
             our
             brother
             confesseth
             these
             Scriptures
             but
             in
             part
             ,
             by
             joyning
             thereto
             the
             laws
             and
             customes
             of
             Kingdoms
             and
             Common-weals
             ,
             as
             a
             partiall
             rule
             ,
             if
             not
             rather
             paramount
             to
             the
             sacred
             ,
             Canon
             ;
             as
             
               Rome
            
             acknowledgeth
             the
             Scripture
             to
             be
             the
             rule
             of
             faith
             ,
             but
             partiall
             ,
             joyning
             thereto
             her
             own
             traditions
             ;
             and
             so
             ●
             thereby
             ,
             as
             the
             
               Pharisees
            
             of
             old
             ,
             make
             the
             Word
             of
             God
             of
             no
             effect
             ,
             through
             humane
             Traditions
             ,
             Lawes
             ,
             Decrees
             ,
             Customes
             ,
             Manners
             of
             men
             ,
             Prince
             and
             People
             ,
             Protestants
             and
             Papists
             ,
             as
             well
             under
             Queen
             
               Mary
            
             and
             her
             Parliament
             ,
             as
             under
             Queen
             
               Elizabeth
            
             and
             hers
             ;
             and
             so
             
               Regis
               ad
               exemplum
               :
            
             as
             the
             Prince
             and
             Pope
             ,
             or
             State
             is
             affected
             ,
             well
             or
             ill
             ,
             Christs
             Kingdome
             ,
             must
             Chameleon-like
             ,
             change
             both
             complexion
             and
             constitution
             .
             And
             if
             this
             satisfie
             not
             my
             brother
             ,
             let
             him
             be
             pleased
             to
             reade
             over
             my
             
               Vindication
            
             once
             again
             ,
             wherein
             he
             may
             cleerly
             see
             ,
             how
             the
             Scripture
             all
             along
             sets
             up
             Christ
             as
             the
             only
             Governour
             and
             Law-giver
             of
             his
             Church
             ,
             excluding
             all
             humane
             Wisdome
             and
             Power
             ,
             from
             intermeddling
             in
             the
             regulating
             of
             his
             Kingdome
             ,
             by
             mans
             Lesbian
             Rule
             .
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A78034e-390
           
             2
             Sam.
             20.
             9
             ,
             10.
             
          
           
             *
             See
             the
             
               Postscript
               ,
            
             pag.
             44.
             
          
           
             Prov.
             20.
             29.
             
             &
             16.
             31.
             
          
           
             *
             Jude
             5.
             
          
           
             Rev.
             12.
             1.
             
          
           
             Pag.
             16.
             
             Pag.
             18.
             
          
           
             Cicer.
             Orat.
             pro
             L.
             Murena
             .
          
           
             Act.
             24.
             25
             ,
             26
             Joh.
             18.
             28.
             
             Mat.
             10.
             17
             ,
             18
             
          
           
             Pag.
             8.
             
          
           
             1
             Cor.
             14.
             33
             ▪
             
          
           
             Platina
             :
             in
             vita
             Bonifacii
             3.
             
          
           
             *
             1.
             Cor.
             12.
             
          
           
             Page
             98.
             
          
           
             To
             the
             second
             Question
             .
          
           
             Page
             14.
             
          
           
             Psal.
             18.
             
             Acts
             3.
             22
             ▪
             
          
           
             Acts
             2.
             
          
           
             *
          
           
             Esa.
             56.
             3.
             
          
           
             Turpius
             ejicitur
             ,
             quàm
             non
             admittitur
             bospes
             .
          
           
             Page
             100
             
          
           
             1
             Cor.
             1.
             2.
             
          
           
             Page
             105.
             
          
           
             Acts
             10.
             
          
           
             Page
             115.
             
          
           
             Homily
             ,
             second
             Sermon
             for
             
               Whitsunday
               .
            
          
           
             Page
             118.
             
          
           
             *
             1
             Cor.
             5.
             4.
             
          
           
             1
             Sam.
             19.
             
          
           
             Acts
             19.
             2.
             
          
           
             *
             Act.
             5.
             28.
             
          
           
             Ibid.
             
          
           
             *
             Page
             139.
             
          
           
             *
             Page
             144.
             
          
           
             *
             Page
             149.
             
          
           
             Page
             149.
             
          
           
             *
             Isa.
             58.
             2.
             
          
           
             Postsc
             .
             Page
             68.
             
          
           
             Ibid.
             pag.
             68.
             
          
           
             Ibid.
             
          
           
             Ibid.
             
          
           
             Psal.
             57.
             4.
             Jer.
             18.
             18.
             
             Gal.
             4.
             
          
           
             *
             Relation
             of
             a
             Conference
             .
             Epist.
             Dedic.
          
           
             Ibid.
             
          
           
             Defence
             ,
             pag
             4.
             
          
           
             *
             Postsc
             .
             41.
             
          
           
             *
             Postsc
             .
             12.
             32.
             34.
             36.
             38.
             
          
           
             
               Page
            
             54.
             
             
               Ibid.
            
             58.
             
             
               Defence
               p.
            
             30
             
               Postsc
               .
            
             61.
             
             
               Pag.
            
             66.
             69.
             
          
           
             Pag.
             43
             ,
             44
             ,
             45.
             
          
           
             Page
             21.
             
          
           
             
               Page
            
             ibid.
          
           
             
               Postscript
               ,
            
             pag.
             43
             ,
             44.
             
          
           
             Rev.
             12.
             10.
             
          
           
             Eusebius
             Eccles.
             Hist.
          
           
             Bon
             face
             8.
             
          
           
             Acts
             15.
             
          
           
             *
             
               D.
               B.
            
             In
             his
             
               Independency
            
             not
             Gods
             Ordinance
             ,
             
               p.
            
             149.
             
             Acts
             5.
             38
             ,
             39
             ,
             40
             ,
             31.