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           POSITIONS
           OF
           THE
           VVORD
           Hades
           :
        
         
           THAT
           IT
           IS
           the
           generall
           place
           of
           Soules
           :
           and
           holdeth
           as
           vvell
           the
           Godly
           vvhich
           are
           in
           Paradise
           ,
           as
           the
           vvicked
           that
           are
           in
           Tartarus
           .
        
         
           
             WITH
             A
             CATALOGVE
             of
             our
             heresies
             ,
             from
             which
             one
             word
             handled
             by
             a
             right
             Grecian
             would
             haue
             saued
             vs.
             
          
        
         
           
             TO
             the
             BB.
             of
             England
             .
          
        
         
           BY
           HVGH
           BROVGHTON
           1605.
           
        
         
      
    
     
       
         
         
           OF
           HADES
           ,
           THE
           place
           of
           Soules
           :
           diuerse
           speches
           vvher
           it
           is
           .
        
         
           1.
           
           The
           Greeks
           vniuersally
           since
           their
           tongue
           hath
           bene
           in
           record
           ,
           holding
           truly
           in
           speach
           ,
           that
           mans
           soule
           is
           immortall
           ,
           Place
           the
           soules
           of
           the
           dead
           in
           Hades
           .
           But
           vvher
           they
           should
           place
           it
           ,
           that
           could
           not
           be
           knovvē
           of
           thē
           vvhich
           had
           not
           faith
           to
           perceaue
           that
           by
           the
           vvord
           of
           God
           tvvo
           vvorldes
           vvere
           made
           .
        
         
           2.
           
           Saturne
           and
           Iapetus
           ,
           sent
           of
           Iuppiter
           into
           Hades
           ,
           held
           the
           other
           Haemisphere
           .
           And
           Plato
           in
           Phaedone
           proueth
           that
           seing
           the
           earth
           is
           in
           the
           middes
           ,
           Hades
           ūder
           the
           earth
           ,
           
           to
           our
           Situation
           ,
           must
           be
           as
           far
           as
           the
           heauens
           .
        
         
           3.
           
           Eustathius
           vpō
           Homer
           calting
           Haden
           for
           Iapetꝰ
           the
           half
           globe
           vnseen
           ,
           shevveth
           that
           some
           place
           Haden
           beyond
           the
           Ocean
           .
           And
           Homer
           ,
           in
           Vlysses
           iourney
           to
           Hades
           ,
           placeth
           it
           beyond
           the
           gates
           of
           the
           Sunne
           .
        
         
           4.
           
           The
           Greek
           fathers
           follovv
           the
           Heathen
           in
           Phrase
           :
           vvho
           term
           the
           place
           of
           all
           dead
           ,
           
             〈◊〉
             〈◊〉
             〈◊〉
             〈◊〉
             〈◊〉
          
           vnder
           the
           ground
           .
           Yet
           they
           knovv
           that
           Abraham
           and
           such
           vvere
           in
           the
           Heauenly
           city
           .
           by
           Eb.
           XI
           .
           and
           that
           doth
           Basilius
           confess
           vpon
           ps
           .
           15
           ,
           &
           115
           ,
           &
           116.
           &
           many
           fathers
           in
           fragments
           vpon
           the
           psalmes
           ioyned
           to
           Athanasius
           .
           And
           Athanasius
           in
           mo
           places
           then
           tvventie
           shevveth
           that
           Hades
           to
           our
           L.
           vvas
           Holy
           Adams
           ,
           &
           holy
           Abrahams
           Lodging
           .
           
           And
           vvhē
           the
           Porters
           of
           Hades
           trēbled
           :
           in
           that
           father
           ,
           it
           vvas
           not
           for
           feare
           least
           the
           vvicked
           should
           be
           rid
           from
           Gehenna
           :
           but
           least
           all
           the
           faithfull
           should
           arise
           .
           And
           Euen
           Gehēna
           in
           Chrysologus
           is
           by
           abuse
           of
           term
           Abrahams
           Lodg
           :
           vvhom
           &
           the
           rich
           man
           Eadem
           regio
           continebat
           .
           VVhat
           vicinity
           is
           to
           soules
           in
           their
           vvorld
           vve
           cannot
           tell
           .
           And
           as
           vve
           see
           the
           sun
           so
           far
           off
           better
           thē
           a
           man
           distant
           forty
           pases
           :
           So
           the
           speach
           passeth
           of
           Abraham
           vvith
           Eleazar
           that
           made
           God
           his
           strength
           ,
           to
           the
           tormented
           :
           as
           though
           there
           vvere
           but
           a
           dingle
           ,
           valley
           ,
           or
           great
           ditch
           betvvixt
           them
           :
           yet
           theyr
           listance
           may
           be
           far
           :
           though
           vve
           must
           be
           spoken
           too
           :
           as
           mans
           capacity
           holdeth
           .
           And
           ,
           by
           our
           Lords
           vvarrant
           ,
           Hades
           hath
           Abraham
           no
           lesse
           then
           the
           rich
           man.
           In
           that
           vvord
           
           Luc.
           16.
           
           The
           Lord
           allovveth
           the
           general
           notiō
           of
           heathē
           Greek
           :
           That
           Hades
           is
           the
           place
           of
           all
           kynde
           of
           Soules
           :
           Faithfull
           &
           faithles
           .
        
         
           5.
           
           By
           Iosephus
           in
           Photius
           Librarj
           The
           bosom
           of
           Abraham
           is
           in
           Hades
           :
           and
           by
           the
           true
           Philo
           the
           Greek
           Ievv
           of
           Alexandria
           ,
           Abrahā
           leaving
           mortality
           is
           ioyned
           to
           the
           People
           of
           God
           ,
           enioying
           vncorruptiō
           ,
           made
           equall
           vnto
           Angels
           .
           And
           this
           sentence
           a
           late
           Ievv
           R.
           Azarias
           hath
           translated
           into
           Ebrevv
           :
           as
           being
           the
           Ievves
           comon
           opinion
           .
        
         
           6.
           
           The
           learned
           Theodoret
           cōmendeth
           Platoes
           iudgment
           for
           double
           iudgments
           in
           Hades
           :
           ioy
           for
           the
           iust
           :
           &
           prison
           for
           the
           vniust
           .
           And
           he
           accepteth
           Platoes
           terms
           ,
           though
           Plato
           knevv
           not
           vvher
           Hades
           vvas
           .
        
         
           7.
           
           The
           Ievves
           in
           Zoar
           made
           from
           Symeon
           Ben
           Iochaj
           ,
           of
           S.
           
           Pauls
           time
           ,
           haue
           Gehenna
           for
           the
           vvicked
           :
           &
           Paradise
           for
           the
           Godly
           .
           And
           no
           third
           place
           .
           And
           in
           Aboth
           Rabbj
           Nathan
           Moses
           &
           all
           faithful
           are
           presently
           caryed
           to
           Gods
           throne
           .
           and
           rest
           vnder
           the
           throne
           .
           as
           the
           martyrs
           vnder
           the
           Altar
           .
           Ap.
           6.
           
        
         
           8.
           
           Our
           L.
           confirming
           the
           Ievves
           terme
           of
           Paradise
           ,
           telleth
           the
           thief
           This
           day
           shalt
           thou
           be
           vvith
           me
           in
           Paradise
           .
           The
           Ievves
           vvere
           taught
           by
           Prophets
           termes
           for
           the
           vvorld
           to
           come
           :
           and
           those
           vvould
           the
           holy
           ghost
           confirm
           in
           the
           nevv
           Testament
           .
        
         
           9.
           
           Some
           Greek
           fathers
           ,
           not
           knovving
           Paradise
           for
           soules
           Lodge
           vsed
           from
           the
           Prophets
           scholers
           ,
           thought
           it
           opened
           first
           to
           the
           thief
           :
           and
           so
           ,
           Hades
           for
           the
           fathers
           to
           be
           a
           degree
           Lovver
           :
           as
           doth
           Basil
           on
           pf
           .
           49.
           yet
           he
           checketh
           himself
           .
        
         
         
           10.
           
           S.
           Paul
           disputing
           vvith
           Ebrevves
           in
           their
           plain
           maner
           ,
           to
           Greeks
           vvas
           hard
           in
           this
           Eb.
           XI
           .
           God
           providing
           better
           for
           vs
           ,
           that
           they
           vvithout
           vs
           should
           not
           be
           perfected
           .
           He
           denyed
           not
           to
           Abel
           ,
           Enoch
           ,
           Noe
           ,
           Melchizedek
           Abrahā
           ,
           Isaak
           ,
           Iacob
           ,
           Moses
           ,
           Barac
           ,
           Gedeon
           ,
           Iepthe
           ,
           Samson
           ,
           Samuel
           ,
           David
           his
           37
           vvorthies
           strong
           in
           Battel
           ,
           the
           Sareptane
           ,
           the
           Sunamite
           ,
           Elias
           &
           vexed
           prophets
           ,
           Ananias
           ,
           Azarias
           ,
           Misael
           &
           Daniel
           &
           the
           Machabees
           ,
           vvho
           dyed
           for
           hope
           of
           the
           better
           resurrection
           ,
           he
           denied
           not
           to
           these
           all
           ioy
           ,
           that
           tbe
           Martyrs
           had
           :
           But
           disputed
           hovv
           the
           Lavv
           made
           nothing
           perfect
           in
           doctrine
           :
           vvithout
           the
           Gospel
           manifested
           vnto
           vs
           ,
           seen
           to
           the
           old
           fathers
           far
           off
           .
        
         
           11.
           
           S.
           Paul
           vvas
           not
           a
           Lord
           of
           faith
           ,
           but
           a
           teacher
           .
           And
           so
           he
           
           vvas
           to
           speak
           vpon
           grounds
           vvhich
           his
           enemies
           could
           not
           deny
           .
           And
           he
           protesteth
           he
           bringeth
           no
           nevv
           Principles
           .
           That
           Christ
           vvas
           to
           suffer
           ,
           &
           being
           the
           first
           from
           the
           dead
           should
           shevv
           Light
           ūto
           the
           vvorld
           :
           this
           vvas
           all
           his
           difference
           from
           the
           Scribes
           .
           And
           his
           Epistle
           to
           the
           Ebrevves
           in
           euery
           membre
           combateth
           vvith
           the
           Talmudiqnes
           :
           vvhos
           speaches
           yf
           the
           Greek
           fathers
           had
           knovven
           ,
           Abrahams
           Hades
           had
           not
           bene
           thought
           ,
           one
           thought
           in
           ioy
           differing
           from
           his
           Iudaique
           Paradise
           :
           vvherin
           he
           vvas
           equall
           to
           Angels
           .
        
         
           12.
           
           Iosephus
           Book
           for
           Abrahās
           bosom
           in
           Hades
           ,
           fathered
           vpon
           Irenęus
           ,
           Iustine
           Martyr
           ,
           &
           one
           Caius
           elected
           Bishop
           of
           the
           Gentils
           ,
           in
           Photius
           ,
           sheevveth
           the
           Greeks
           comon
           opinion
           :
           That
           they
           took
           Hades
           
           the
           General
           to
           Paradise
           dise
           &
           Gehenna
           .
           But
           vvhen
           they
           feared
           speaches
           to
           Rabbins
           for
           the
           thiefes
           Paradise
           ,
           &
           hovv
           the
           Patriarks
           had
           not
           perfection
           vvithout
           vs.
           yet
           Theophilact
           vvrestleth
           vvell
           vp
           on
           S.
           Luc.
           23.
           vvith
           both
           poincts
           .
           But
           novv
           1400.
           yeares
           the
           Greeks
           haue
           staggered
           :
           Saying
           vvell
           and
           tottering
           vpon
           their
           ovvn
           sayings
           .
        
         
           13.
           
           VVithout
           knovvledge
           of
           Rabbins
           &
           Heathen
           Greeks
           ,
           none
           can
           be
           a
           fit
           Bishop
           to
           expoūd
           soūdly
           the
           Ebrevv
           and
           the
           Greek
           Testament
           :
           &
           to
           shevv
           Constantly
           that
           Hades
           is
           the
           Generall
           for
           Heauen
           &
           Hell.
           
        
         
           14.
           
           The
           Scribes
           hold
           vniuersally
           that
           Sheol
           neuer
           distinguisheth
           Lots
           ,
           but
           vvhen
           it
           is
           taken
           for
           a
           spedy
           death
           ,
           vpon
           vvickednes
           :
           and
           yet
           then
           no
           sure
           vvarrant
           ,
           for
           to
           be
           
           Hell.
           
        
         
           15.
           
           Yf
           any
           vvill
           be
           heaping
           Christians
           for
           Sheol
           to
           be
           Hell
           ,
           against
           the
           most
           Learned
           Scribes
           ,
           Rambam
           ,
           the
           greatest
           Thalmudique
           that
           ever
           vvas
           :
           vvho
           to
           .
           1.
           49.
           in
           a
           treatise
           of
           repentance
           svveateth
           to
           find
           the
           Metaphores
           for
           Hell
           ,
           and
           all
           notes
           of
           it
           but
           neuer
           durst
           touch
           Sheol
           :
           yf
           any
           vvill
           make
           our
           Barbarous
           to
           teach
           such
           Rabbins
           Ebrevv
           ,
           that
           mā
           making
           us
           ask
           off
           to
           Turks
           &
           Ievves
           ,
           Laboureth
           for
           Machmad
           more
           then
           many
           thousands
           that
           take
           his
           pay
           .
           And
           such
           should
           be
           bridled
           not
           honoured
           .
        
         
           Of
           the
           manyfold
           Haeresies
           vvhich
           Hades
           ,
           holden
           The
           vvorld
           of
           Soules
           ,
           generall
           to
           Paradise
           &
           Gehenna
           ,
           doth
           plainly
           ,
           strongly
           ,
           &
           most
           profitably
           confute
           .
        
         
         
           1
           The
           Pope
           thanketh
           GOD
           ,
           vvho
           sent
           his
           S.
           to
           Hades
           ,
           to
           bring
           the
           fathers
           to
           Paradise
           :
           This
           thāk
           is
           foolish
           .
           They
           vvere
           &
           are
           still
           in
           Paradise
           :
           the
           ioyfull
           part
           of
           Hades
           .
           And
           they
           changed
           not
           their
           place
           ,
           by
           our
           Lords
           passage
           .
        
         
           2.
           
           Some
           of
           ours
           say
           :
           The
           Church
           ever
           held
           that
           out
           L.
           vvēt
           to
           Hell.
           The
           Iesuites
           of
           Mentz
           being
           demaūded
           of
           their
           faith
           :
           vvhich
           is
           in
           a
           Greeke
           Epistle
           vvritten
           by
           their
           chief
           Pater
           Nicol
           Serarius
           vtterly
           deny
           that
           our
           L.
           vvēt
           to
           vvorse
           Lodge
           then
           the
           fathers
           had
           .
           And
           no
           old
           Church
           vvent
           further
           that
           vvay
           then
           the
           Popish
           .
           So
           our
           Doctrine
           fayleth
           ,
           and
           falleth
           .
           And
           of
           reformed
           Churches
           Breame
           alone
           or
           vvith
           small
           company
           ,
           holdeth
           Hell
           ,
           to
           be
           named
           in
           the
           Creed
           .
        
         
           3.
           
           Geneua
           made
           them selves
           
           rediculous
           to
           all
           Graecia
           :
           teaching
           imposibilities
           :
           that
           our
           L.
           vvent
           to
           paradise
           :
           and
           not
           to
           Hades
           .
           As
           if
           they
           vvere
           men
           &
           not
           Animalia
           .
        
         
           4.
           
           The
           same
           in
           vvord
           deny
           the
           soules
           immortality
           .
           All
           Platoniques
           vvill
           tell
           thē
           that
           yf
           the
           soul
           be
           immortall
           ,
           it
           must
           needs
           go
           hēce
           to
           Hades
           .
           Not
           onely
           Theodoret
           named
           about
           :
           but
           also
           S.
           Luc.
           16.
           allovveth
           Platoes
           speach
           .
           So
           Geneva
           tongue
           denyeth
           the
           soules
           immortality
           :
           though
           it
           have
           a
           mind
           vndenying
           of
           it
           :
           and
           a
           good
           hope
           of
           the
           vvorld
           of
           Soules
           :
           better
           thē
           the
           Ievves
           :
           vvhich
           say
           Gholā
           haneshamoth
           Gholam
           hanechamoth
           The
           vvorld
           of
           soules
           is
           the
           vvorld
           of
           Solace
           .
           But
           alas
           they
           hausmal
           hop
           ,
           vvho
           deny
           Christ
           our
           only
           hope
           .
        
         
           5.
           
           Geneva
           ,
           saying
           :
           To
           descēd
           to
           Hell
           is
           to
           haue
           the
           torments
           of
           
           Hell
           :
           vvould
           be
           rediculous
           to
           three
           thousand
           yeares
           Greek
           :
           none
           euer
           tooke
           it
           so
           .
           Therin
           they
           do
           them selves
           exceeding
           great
           iniury
           :
           shevving
           that
           they
           misse
           in
           vveighty
           matter
           :
           against
           the
           Perpetuall
           vse
           of
           the
           speach
           .
        
         
           6.
           
           The
           same
           teaching
           in
           this
           order
           that
           our
           L.
           suffred
           :
           vvas
           crucified
           dead
           and
           buryed
           ,
           and
           suffred
           :
           Make
           the
           Penner
           of
           the
           Creed
           to
           be
           no
           Logician
           :
           that
           knevv
           not
           in
           vvhat
           order
           things
           vvere
           to
           be
           spoken
           .
        
         
           7.
           
           The
           Soules
           immortality
           should
           specially
           be
           opened
           in
           the
           Creed
           :
           that
           the
           body
           being
           declared
           ,
           hovv
           it
           vvas
           crucified
           dead
           ,
           &
           buryed
           :
           this
           article
           vvas
           needfull
           :
           That
           our
           Lord
           his
           soule
           vvent
           vnto
           the
           Father
           .
           That
           doth
           the
           Greek
           in
           speach
           of
           the
           faithfull
           ,
           signify
           .
           
           This
           goodly
           article
           the
           Geneveans
           exclude
           .
        
         
           8.
           
           The
           assertion
           that
           our
           L.
           suffred
           Hell
           torments
           ,
           appeareth
           not
           true
           by
           any
           Scripture
           .
           True
           modesty
           vvould
           looke
           to
           Scripture
           phrases
           in
           handling
           our
           redemtion
           .
           The
           WORD
           telleth
           our
           L.
           his
           danger
           ,
           shame
           and
           reproch
           ,
           vvere
           vnspeakable
           :
           and
           that
           God
           left
           him
           ps
           .
           22.
           vnto
           paynes
           and
           contumelies
           there
           set
           dovvn
           .
           But
           that
           GOD
           forsooke
           him
           :
           that
           is
           our
           ovvne
           term
           .
           The
           vvord
           is
           Leaue
           .
           And
           the
           psalme
           expoundeth
           the
           vvord
           .
           And
           Shabak
           in
           the
           Gospell
           ,
           Syriaque
           and
           in
           Dan.
           4.
           is
           plainly
           to
           leaue
           .
           As
           to
           leave
           the
           stumpes
           of
           the
           tree
           in
           the
           ground
           .
        
         
           9.
           
           Calvins
           vncircūspect
           vvordes
           herein
           gaue
           Papists
           much
           advātage
           :
           and
           troubled
           all
           Churches
           .
           
           Greek
           skill
           for
           one
           vvord
           vvould
           haue
           holpen
           all
           .
        
         
           10.
           
           Purgatory
           falleth
           vvhē
           .
           Hades
           Lodgeth
           all
           soules
           departed
           :
           &
           can
           haue
           but
           Paradise
           &
           Gehenna
           for
           them
           .
        
         
           11.
           
           Archb.
           VVhitgift
           ,
           vvas
           vvise
           vvhen
           he
           obteyned
           by
           Syr
           Iulius
           Caesar
           Q.
           Elizabeths
           hand
           for
           M.
           Ieffrey
           K.
           felovv
           of
           the
           Kinges
           Colledge
           to
           passe
           ouer
           sea
           to
           cōfesse
           his
           haeresy
           :
           vvhile
           he
           denyed
           descēding
           to
           Hel
           in
           the
           Creed
           to
           mean
           in
           a
           Barbarous
           &
           shamefull
           translation
           a
           going
           vp
           to
           Paradise
           .
           And
           he
           vvas
           thankfull
           in
           promise
           of
           400
           Lib.
           ꝑ
           annū
           :
           to
           his
           Catechizer
           .
           So
           that
           he
           vvould
           stir
           no
           more
           in
           the
           matter
           .
           Archb.
           VVhitg
           .
           vvas
           vvell
           Learned
           in
           the
           comon
           kind
           :
           and
           could
           see
           .
           When
           he
           the
           Arch.
           yeelded
           ,
           the
           inferior
           BB.
           should
           haue
           done
           so
           :