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         Penn, William, 1644-1718.
      
       
         
           1685
        
      
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             A defence of the Duke of Buckingham, against the answer to his book, and the reply to his letter by the author of the late Considerations.
             Penn, William, 1644-1718.
          
           8 p.
           
             Printed for W.C.,
             London :
             1685.
          
           
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             Attributed to William Penn. cf. NUC pre-1956 v. 448, p. 405.
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           Buckingham, George Villiers, -- Duke of, 1628-1687. -- Short discourse upon the reasonableness of men's having a religion.
           Short answer to His Grace the D. of Buckingham's paper.
           Toleration.
        
      
    
     
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           A
           DEFENCE
           OF
           THE
           
             Duke
             of
             Buckingham
          
           ,
           Against
           the
           Answer
           to
           his
           Book
           ,
           And
           the
           Reply
           to
           his
           Letter
           .
        
         
           By
           the
           Author
           of
           the
           late
           Considerations
           .
        
         
           I
           Remember
           at
           the
           time
           when
           Chancellor
           Hyde
           was
           at
           his
           heigth
           at
           Court
           ,
           a
           Poor
           Woman
           who
           got
           her
           Living
           by
           a
           piece
           of
           Ground
           which
           her
           Old
           Husband
           used
           to
           Digg
           ,
           carrying
           her
           Garden-stuff
           one
           day
           to
           Market
           ,
           and
           not
           Selling
           it
           ,
           comes
           Home
           exclaiming
           ,
           that
           she
           could
           not
           Sell
           her
           Beans
           and
           
           Cabbages
           ;
           and
           should
           never
           have
           any
           good
           Market
           any
           more
           ,
           so
           long
           as
           that
           filthy
           Hyde
           was
           Chancellor
           .
        
         
           I
           know
           not
           the
           AUTHOR
           (
           whosoever
           he
           be
           )
           of
           the
           Discourse
           which
           came
           out
           for
           an
           ANSWER
           to
           His
           Grace
           the
           DUKE
           of
           〈…〉
           ;
           but
           the
           Argumentation
           of
           the
           Gentleman
           has
           really
           ,
           as
           to
           the
           main
           point
           of
           his
           answer
           to
           the
           design
           of
           that
           Generous
           DUKE
           (
           when
           the
           rest
           is
           Impertinence
           )
           the
           force
           only
           (
           and
           prejudice
           )
           of
           what
           was
           said
           by
           this
           Woman
           .
        
         
           There
           are
           some
           in
           the
           Nation
           that
           have
           been
           ,
           and
           that
           are
           for
           
             Liberty
             of
             Conscience
          
           ;
           some
           that
           have
           been
           ,
           and
           that
           are
           of
           the
           Wisest
           of
           the
           Nation
           (
           such
           as
           my
           Lord
           Bacon
           ,
           and
           my
           Lord
           Chief
           Justice
           Hales
           )
           who
           have
           shewn
           their
           Minds
           still
           against
           the
           Stiffness
           of
           these
           Church-Men
           ,
           who
           never
           would
           be
           got
           ,
           when
           time
           was
           ,
           to
           condescend
           in
           lesser
           
           things
           for
           the
           sake
           of
           greater
           .
           And
           there
           comes
           this
           Gentleman
           now
           ,
           and
           he
           Argues
           ,
           That
           therefore
           all
           the
           Plots
           ,
           all
           the
           Rebellions
           ,
           all
           the
           Evils
           that
           have
           befallen
           the
           Kingdom
           ,
           must
           be
           Imputed
           to
           such
           Men
           ,
           and
           such
           Principles
           .
        
         
           The
           Argument
           really
           is
           the
           Reasoning
           of
           this
           Woman
           :
           
             Socrate
             ambulante
             fulguravit
             .
             Socrates
          
           going
           abroad
           ,
           it
           Lightened
           ;
           This
           Lightning
           did
           a
           great
           deal
           of
           hurt
           ;
           Therefore
           Socrates
           must
           be
           sent
           to
           Newgate
           :
           Therefore
           
             Liberty
             of
             Conscience
          
           must
           be
           put
           to
           Death
           .
           I
           deny
           the
           Argument
           .
        
         
           These
           Fanaticks
           (
           say
           these
           Disputers
           )
           are
           unquiet
           ;
           Therefore
           they
           must
           be
           Prosecuted
           .
           I
           say
           ,
           No
           ;
           but
           therefore
           give
           them
           
             Liberty
             of
             Conscience
          
           ,
           and
           they
           will
           be
           unquiet
           no
           more
           .
           A
           Carrier
           had
           two
           Horses
           ,
           one
           of
           them
           being
           Galled
           through
           the
           negligence
           of
           his
           Man
           ,
           the
           Man
           unknown
           to
           his
           Master
           
           gets
           the
           Saddle
           fitted
           to
           his
           back
           ,
           and
           all
           is
           well
           :
           One
           day
           a
           New
           Hostler
           ,
           perceiving
           nothing
           ,
           puts
           on
           the
           false
           Saddle
           ;
           The
           Horse
           going
           out
           ,
           Winches
           ,
           and
           casts
           off
           his
           Pack
           .
           The
           Master
           being
           enraged
           ,
           falls
           a
           beating
           the
           Horse
           ;
           but
           the
           Man
           that
           understood
           the
           matter
           ,
           does
           but
           change
           only
           the
           Saddles
           ,
           and
           both
           the
           Horses
           go
           quietly
           along
           .
        
         
           I
           will
           appeal
           to
           any
           Man
           of
           Sense
           ,
           though
           of
           never
           so
           little
           Reason
           ,
           whether
           
             Ease
             ,
             Happiness
          
           ,
           and
           Plenty
           are
           likeliest
           to
           make
           People
           Turbulent
           ,
           or
           Oppression
           ?
           Take
           off
           the
           thing
           that
           pinches
           ,
           take
           off
           Prosecution
           ,
           do
           but
           change
           the
           Saddles
           ,
           and
           set
           them
           both
           aright
           ,
           and
           see
           then
           whether
           the
           Church-men
           or
           the
           Fanaticks
           ,
           and
           Catholicks
           will
           be
           most
           Governable
           .
           Let
           this
           King
           give
           that
           Liberty
           which
           his
           Predecessors
           refused
           ,
           and
           you
           shall
           see
           whether
           this
           King
           will
           not
           be
           beloved
           above
           all
           
           that
           went
           before
           Him.
           I
           pray
           go
           over
           to
           Holland
           ,
           go
           any
           where
           else
           ,
           where
           Liberty
           is
           granted
           ,
           and
           see
           ,
           if
           People
           Rebel
           in
           such
           Places
           .
           I
           am
           ashamed
           ,
           that
           Men
           should
           have
           need
           of
           Spectacles
           to
           see
           the
           Sun
           !
        
         
           There
           are
           some
           ,
           I
           know
           ,
           upon
           the
           Duke
           of
           
           Buckingham's
           sending
           out
           these
           Papers
           ,
           have
           aspersed
           him
           for
           another
           Shaftsbury
           ,
           as
           if
           he
           would
           make
           himself
           Head
           of
           the
           Fanaticks
           :
           There
           are
           others
           apt
           to
           cry
           out
           ,
           He
           is
           undermining
           the
           
             Protestant
             Religion
          
           ,
           and
           designs
           Popery
           :
           But
           as
           I
           know
           that
           my
           own
           self
           do
           design
           nothing
           but
           the
           Publick
           Benefit
           ,
           so
           do
           I
           judge
           of
           his
           Graces
           undertaking
           :
           That
           is
           ,
           as
           the
           undertaking
           of
           a
           Person
           over
           whom
           a
           great
           Reason
           ,
           and
           the
           Love
           of
           his
           Countrey
           does
           predominate
           ,
           with
           Indifferency
           to
           
           the
           Church-men
           ,
           the
           Fanaticks
           ,
           and
           also
           those
           of
           the
           Romish
           Perswasion
           .
        
         
           The
           Truth
           is
           ,
           The
           attempt
           of
           the
           Duke
           at
           this
           time
           for
           
             Liberty
             of
             Conscience
          
           ,
           looks
           to
           me
           to
           proceed
           from
           such
           a
           Spirit
           as
           the
           Enterprizes
           of
           
             Dion
             ,
             Epaminondas
             ,
             Timoleon
          
           ,
           and
           such
           like
           ,
           who
           were
           Liberators
           of
           their
           Countrey
           :
           In
           comparison
           of
           whom
           ,
           the
           Conquests
           of
           
             Caesar
             ,
             Alexander
          
           ,
           and
           Pyrrbus
           ,
           who
           sought
           themselves
           and
           their
           own
           Greatness
           ,
           were
           but
           Spoil
           and
           Latrociny
           .
           The
           Papers
           Writ
           against
           him
           ,
           the
           Duke
           himself
           hath
           thought
           fit
           to
           take
           Notice
           of
           in
           a
           Letter
           ,
           which
           Letter
           having
           one
           thing
           in
           it
           that
           is
           enough
           to
           make
           him
           Print
           it
           ,
           [
           to
           wit
           ,
           
             The
             Explanation
             of
             the
             Kings
             Promise
             ]
          
           the
           rest
           of
           it
           I
           count
           comes
           to
           this
           Signification
           ,
           
           That
           the
           Author
           is
           by
           no
           means
           to
           be
           made
           his
           Grace's
           Match
           ,
           but
           to
           be
           left
           to
           others
           :
           Unto
           whom
           also
           ,
           one
           of
           them
           being
           come
           out
           already
           ,
           I
           'le
           leave
           him
           .
        
         
           Neither
           ,
           indeed
           ,
           is
           the
           Field
           here
           proper
           for
           his
           Grace
           to
           Descend
           into
           ;
           it
           being
           the
           Parliament
           House
           only
           ,
           which
           is
           the
           fit
           place
           ;
           where
           this
           cause
           is
           to
           be
           Fought
           ,
           where
           he
           will
           meet
           with
           his
           Equals
           ,
           and
           where
           we
           shall
           know
           who
           shall
           carry
           it
           .
        
         
           As
           for
           the
           Replyer
           to
           the
           Dukes
           Letter
           ,
           who
           Insists
           only
           upon
           the
           same
           thing
           ,
           which
           the
           Answerer
           does
           ,
           the
           
             Distractions
             ,
             Miseries
             ,
             Regicide
          
           ,
           in
           the
           late
           Times
           ,
           and
           therefore
           the
           Government
           must
           
             Fence
             against
             them
          
           by
           denial
           of
           Toleration
           ,
           I
           must
           add
           (
           this
           being
           nothing
           still
           but
           the
           Fallacy
           
             non
             causae
             pro
             causa
          
           before
           )
           that
           ,
           As
           
           the
           Answer
           is
           not
           worthy
           the
           pains
           of
           the
           Duke
           ,
           so
           the
           Reply
           does
           require
           no
           Body's
           .
           Although
           indeed
           ,
           in
           the
           Paper
           of
           
             Considerations
             moving
             to
             a
             Toleration
          
           ,
           come
           out
           since
           both
           ,
           there
           is
           one
           little
           Parenthesis
           ,
           
             viz.
             [
             Stated
             Rightly
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             of
             All
             ,
             so
             far
             as
             they
             are
             Tolerable
             ,
             whereof
             the
             Wisdom
             of
             a
             Parliament
             is
             the
             fittest
             Judge
             ]
          
           does
           Preoccupate
           all
           Objections
           ,
           and
           stops
           the
           Throat
           of
           this
           Flap-Mouth
           Argument
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
           Entred
           according
           to
           Order
           .
        
         
           LONDON
           ,
           Printed
           for
           
             W.
             C.
          
           1685.
           
        
         
      
    
  

